"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Anybody ever date a girl for a few weeks, pursue her too much, been a little needy, then she backs away or "not ready for a relationship," only to have her come back in a month or two and you get back together and/or bang?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Actually going through this with a guy right now.

He's been doing this to me every three months or so over the past year. I finally got sick of his flippant behavior, and advanced on him hard.

He told me I was hot, exactly his type, but started shaking when it came time for sex and said he couldn't do it.

Next.
 

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I've always shown interest. I believe he is still hung up over an ex, and has some moral issues regarding sex.

I'd rather a guy be up front vs. play games. I was literally on top of him when he broke down and said he couldn't go through with having sex. Mind boggling.

He commented: "what, are you not used to being turned down?".

I found that comment odd considering he never asked about my prior history.

Whatever happened to "hey I like you, but you're not what I'm looking for."

Nice and easy. Sigh.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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So...you find a guy whose into you who shows mutual interest. There's plenty out there. If he's hung up on an ex, nothing you can do about it. It's the same thing as if a girl is hung up on her ex...nothing but brain damage. Hot/cold behavior is fvcking annoying. Avoid.
 

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hera said:
He commented: "what, are you not used to being turned down?".
So how did you respond to this?
 

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I responded with a quizzical look and nervous laughter: um, I don't put myself in this position with guys often, so no I'm not used to this.

I jumped off him, and then we cuddled the remainder of the evening and talked. Making out, heavy touching, etc. He claimed again and again that he wanted me, but just couldn't do it.

Something tells me he just wants to be able to say "I denied you".

I kinda wanted to break out in song/dance and split...
So long, farewell!
Auf Wiedersehen, goodnight!
 

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Hera, if a guy makes a definite date with you but you say you will confirm and he agrees, do you feel like he's letting you boss him around and is weak? And on the day of the date, if you back out last minute, and he said he didn't think you were coming and he already made plans because of your lack of confirmation, would you think the guy thinks he's unworthy of you?

Please give me a brutally honest answer.
 

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You created a separate thread on that topic, to which I already commented.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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hera said:
Something tells me he just wants to be able to say "I denied you".
You want to know what I think Miss? You don't? Great, so here is what I think:

I think you getting denied by a man blew your mind. I think it's still eating you alive to this day. Your hamster isn't spinning, it staggered off the wheel and went and got hit by a train. :yes:
 

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logicallefty said:
You want to know what I think Miss? You don't? Great, so here is what I think:

I think you getting denied by a man blew your mind. I think it's still eating you alive to this day. Your hamster isn't spinning, it staggered off the wheel and went and got hit by a train. :yes:
A year in the making and I was ready to forsake all others for him too. :down:
 

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yes until the part of coming back and nailing her, if you were too needy clingy whatever most hb8s hb9s so very good looking girls will have no interest level at all and already found a new guy. The average to ugly ones could come back because of lack of interested guys
 

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hera said:
A year in the making and I was ready to forsake all others for him too. :down:
You are not denying that it's bothering you. Kudos. :up:

Has a man ever turned you down for sex before, ever?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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logicallefty said:
You are not denying that it's bothering you. Kudos. :up:

Has a man ever turned you down for sex before, ever?
No. But, a turn down while I'm mid-straddle? Come on.

Stings for me, but I'm sure his reasoning (whatever is may be) is sound.

I hope I don't develop a complex...
 

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hera said:
No. But, a turn down while I'm mid-straddle? Come on.

Stings for me, but I'm sure his reasoning (whatever is may be) is sound.

I hope I don't develop a complex...
I've turned down sex from my significant others, at times in their birthday suits and ready to romp, because:

- I knew I was not clean

- I knew she was not clean

- I was really b@lls azz tired from a long day at work

- I didn't want my kid to hear us

- I didn't have a jimmy suit

- The biggest one of all, she had been a flat out b|tch lately and was temporarily unattractive at the time

So you think guys should never turn it down huh?
 

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logicallefty said:
I've turned down sex from my significant others, at times in their birthday suits and ready to romp, because:

- I knew I was not clean

- I knew she was not clean

- I was really b@lls azz tired from a long day at work

- I didn't want my kid to hear us

- I didn't have a jimmy suit

- The biggest one of all, she had been a flat out b|tch lately and was temporarily unattractive at the time

So you think guys should never turn it down huh?
I'm sure his reasoning (whatever is may be) is sound.

Regarding the complex comment, I was being facetious, easily misinterpreted on a forum.

Thank you for the input. :)
 

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hera said:
I'm sure his reasoning (whatever is may be) is sound.

Regarding the complex comment, I was being facetious, easily misinterpreted on a forum.

Thank you for the input. :)
Yep
 

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Update: Sealed the deal two nights ago after four months. :rockon:

Chump.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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