"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Shaking a woman's hand when you first meet her

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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slickaz

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always do it.
treat her like you would treat any one else, she is no diff. it is polite and you can shake it firmly yet gently and she'll notice...
its already a kino conformt.
 

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Basically what I do is kind of hold my hand at maybe like 70 degrees instead of straight up and down like you would with another guy. So their hand is kinda on top of yours in a way, I dunno why I do it I just do haha.

Has to be mildy firm, but not like when you shake hands with a dude where you both try to squeeze as hard as possible to see whos stronger haha...

I think you might be thinking about this to much? shes a person just like you so just do what you feel is appropriate.
 

The Comeback Kid

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This isn't rocket science. Yes shake her hand, however be a bit gentler than when shaking hands with a guy (don't be flat, but don't try to squeeze her hand off). :cool:
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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saber

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i would say big no unless she extends her hand first
 

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I'll shake a woman's hand out of the blue while she's sitting down and I'm walking by her. My handshake with a woman always is inacted by turning her hand over under my hand as if to kiss it but I never kiss it like in the movies etc. I just turn it over. Women Remember that and think it strange or unusual, and usually follow me around after that or remember me.
 

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Personally I never do it and think guys look retarded walking around a bar shaking womens hands. That's just my opinion tho
 

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Hmmm well from my experience most guys do it so it would follow that most guys who are successful do it, but so do the other 99.9% of guys who suck at life. Personally I find it to be a little too familiar/friendly and can think of better things to do with my hands while talking to a girl.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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When I shake a girls hand, my palm is completely facing straight down.

So the girl actually has to turn her palm facing up to shake mine. lol :cool:
 

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Frog X said:
Basically what I do is kind of hold my hand at maybe like 70 degrees instead of straight up and down like you would with another guy. So their hand is kinda on top of yours in a way, I dunno why I do it I just do haha.

Has to be mildy firm, but not like when you shake hands with a dude where you both try to squeeze as hard as possible to see whos stronger haha...

I think you might be thinking about this to much? shes a person just like you so just do what you feel is appropriate.
That 70 degree angle you do? Stop it. Body language experts suggest that the person with the hand on top is the dominant one in the interaction.. subconsciously your giving them the control in the interaction.

Sorry if i went bill nye the science guy just a interesting fact i read..
 

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Do it. Don't give women that special treatment sh*t.

Extra points if you kiss it with no fear.
 

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cola said:
That 70 degree angle you do? Stop it. Body language experts suggest that the person with the hand on top is the dominant one in the interaction.. subconsciously your giving them the control in the interaction.

Sorry if i went bill nye the science guy just a interesting fact i read..

I knew that would come up :rolleyes:

Oh noes she has subconcious control of the interaction! Eject!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I like to do the two handed handshake... shake her hand with my right and hold her wrist with my left. Also, as others have noted, it can't be some wussy limp wristed crap, shake her hand firmly, just don't squeeze too hard. Women like a firm handshake.
 

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I put her in a wrist lock and make her go down. Shows dominance.
 

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lol

I love it! We are discussing handshaking and the issue of who's dominant or not based on the hand holding comes up. :D
 
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