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Sexual Talk with Girls

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Basically what @NSX-R is saying. Describe what you want to do. Women get dudes all day telling them they look hot. Usually I start slowly and describe what I would do if they were alone with me. You dont just jump right to fvcking. You kiss her first then kiss her neck then work your way down. Sometimes you have to take a step back. Then just continue where you left off. Basically the same as if she was in physical space with you.
When would one do that? I mean its not something you want to say when you approach. Do you do that when she is at you home or do you start at the date? Like do you wait until she shows IOI and later go ahead
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I’ve noticed when I’m literally telling them with all detail what i want to do with them (sometimes i exaggerate a bit)when I’m about to bang them , it’s more acceptable and they love it . And most of the times they pick it up on their own and use even more imagination. Even though I’m 100% successful with it , I’m always backing up a bit when I meet a female and requires more raport from my side mostly to start with sexual talk .

Telling a woman nowadays that they’re hot or that they turn you on it’s like saying nothing. They almost never comment on it or try to pick up some sexual talk from it . It’s like they never hearing it. Maybe they’ve heard it so many times it makes no difference to them.
Yeah when you're in the sexual phase with a woman, I'm all for this and I do it too. There just seems to be some contrasting beliefs that it's good to do early in the courting phase versus being sexual too soon can turn a woman off. That's what I'm more interested in determining. I was surprised I didn't even get a "thanks" or a "haha thanks" which I have found to be typical responses.

Basically what @NSX-R is saying. Describe what you want to do. Women get dudes all day telling them they look hot. Usually I start slowly and describe what I would do if they were alone with me. You dont just jump right to fvcking. You kiss her first then kiss her neck then work your way down. Sometimes you have to take a step back. Then just continue where you left off. Basically the same as if she was in physical space with you.
Of course... There's some people who start sex talk early I believe though.. I am just curious if that helps/hurts results or maybe it just depends on the woman like most other things.

When would one do that? I mean its not something you want to say when you approach. Do you do that when she is at you home or do you start at the date? Like do you wait until she shows IOI and later go ahead
See I rarely ever talk about sex in the courting process... I just physically escalate when the time is right... just wondering if this is a facet of my game I should incorporate. I do talk dirty when I'm having sex but again my question is more directed towards the early courting process.

Does talking about sex too early raise red flags for a woman?
 

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give off sexual vibes you don't need to flirt. let her initiate the flirting. if your masculinity and testosterone is high she will know and you won't have to 'flirt' . if you do feel the need to speak sexually to them then I'd always recommend trying to be funny.

'hey im about to go home and take a nap you wanna join me?'
 

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give off sexual vibes you don't need to flirt. let her initiate the flirting. if your masculinity and testosterone is high she will know and you won't have to 'flirt' . if you do feel the need to speak sexually to them then I'd always recommend trying to be funny.

'hey im about to go home and take a nap you wanna join me?'
Word. Just thought of another recent girl who went silent when I brought up sexual talk... just some facebook girl out of state but still its like wtf.
 

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Word. Just thought of another recent girl who went silent when I brought up sexual talk... just some facebook girl out of state but still its like wtf.
it's a little different on facebook and OLD. i have no valuable input for that.
 

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If you want to bang a woman, then it goes against your nature to censure yourself on the topic of sex. To repress the desire to talk about it is the beta thing to do. If you're interested you should bring it up.

Don't be blunt though, you have to use innuendo.
 

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I don't think it affects the result. I ve had girls basically go into full on phone sex with me and then flake on the actual meetup. I ve had a chick I picked up from cleaning the church told me how religious and all her rules. I was fingering her in a public park an hour later....sorry kids :( I d say if u r going there cut it short and leave her wanting more.
 
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I don't think it affects the result. I ve had girls basically go into full on phone sex with me and then flake on the actual meetup. I ve had a chick I picked up from cleaning the church told me how religious and all her rules. I was fingering her in a public park an hour later....sorry kids :( I d say if u r going there cut it short and leave her wanting more.
Yeah same.

If you want to bang a woman, then it goes against your nature to censure yourself on the topic of sex. To repress the desire to talk about it is the beta thing to do. If you're interested you should bring it up.

Don't be blunt though, you have to use innuendo.
Like I said, I usually just physically escalate without the talk. During sex I'll dirty talk though. I'm just wondering if not talking about sex earlier is something my game can improve upon though. You're saying to not censure myself or repress it but then you're saying not to be blunt.. so it kind of sounds like you are saying to talk about politically correct which not sure how alpha that is
 

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Like I said, I usually just physically escalate without the talk. During sex I'll dirty talk though. I'm just wondering if not talking about sex earlier is something my game can improve upon though. You're saying to not censure myself or repress it but then you're saying not to be blunt.. so it kind of sounds like you are saying to talk about politically correct which not sure how alpha that is
I'm saying don't repress the urge to talk about the topic of sex. You don't have to be blunt to be honest.
 

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I don't get the point. Both u and the girl know what s going on. I can talk about other topics and still move things forward to sex. I can also walk and chew gum at the same time.

What I think OP was asking is if u can shorten the dance by talking sex upfront. IMO not often. Given the randomness of chicks anything will work sometimes. Even sensitive emo guys got laid sometimes just not often.
 

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Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I nearly always get quickly to how I want to drip honey on their tits, belly, thighs and ***** then lick it off. Works like a charm. And if it ever doesn't work I won't waste a minute more of my time with her.
 

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Sex is usually hotter if it’s left unspoken beforehand.

If she initiates dirty talk with a flirty/sexy comment or text, sure, you can follow up on that. But you don’t need to initiate that.

“Be more sexual to avoid friendzone” is probably 2004 thinking. In 2020, she knows exactly who she wants to bang and when. You don’t need to TRY to be more sexual.
 

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Sex is usually hotter if it’s left unspoken beforehand.

If she initiates dirty talk with a flirty/sexy comment or text, sure, you can follow up on that. But you don’t need to initiate that.

“Be more sexual to avoid friendzone” is probably 2004 thinking. In 2020, she knows exactly who she wants to bang and when. You don’t need to TRY to be more sexual.
In 2020 the guy is too busy or running. Occasionally letting her slip in.
 

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I don't get the point. Both u and the girl know what s going on. I can talk about other topics and still move things forward to sex. I can also walk and chew gum at the same time.

What I think OP was asking is if u can shorten the dance by talking sex upfront. IMO not often. Given the randomness of chicks anything will work sometimes. Even sensitive emo guys got laid sometimes just not often.
Yeah exactly.. was curious if sexual talk earlier in the courting process could be beneficial. Probably best to continue being chill.
 
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Take it from a stripper, don't let people waste your time. If the ***** is not forthcoming, cut your losses. The fastest way to weed out time wasters is to get to the point quickly.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

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Had another negative with this yesterday... a girl out of state that clearly likes me, I referenced making out and she got quiet..

Like wtf lol
What are you talking to her on? Is this through text messenger? Did you meet her on a dating site? How long has she been quiet for? Did you double text when she didn't reply?

I am not good with text communication. I am not good at escalating things through text. I don't like text messaging in general and try to keep it short and to the point. Usually I take the mindset of texting to get the girl out as quick as possible. I don't understand how people can build rapport through text. With the lock downs going on, perhaps this strategy needs to change.

Members like @stormrider have preached that if you are high enough value, it doesn't matter what you do and say. How do you communicate value through text?
 

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Another belief I have in my head is that if you talk about sex too early with a girl they will get turned off.

However I know women are even hornier than we are... Do you ever talk about sex with them?

I usually just make a physical move and don't really have sexual dialogue beforehand.
Calibrated subcommunication/subtext/reading in-between-the-lines/innuendo is everything.
 

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Yeah when you're in the sexual phase with a woman, I'm all for this and I do it too. There just seems to be some contrasting beliefs that it's good to do early in the courting phase versus being sexual too soon can turn a woman off. That's what I'm more interested in determining. I was surprised I didn't even get a "thanks" or a "haha thanks" which I have found to be typical responses.



Of course... There's some people who start sex talk early I believe though.. I am just curious if that helps/hurts results or maybe it just depends on the woman like most other things.



See I rarely ever talk about sex in the courting process... I just physically escalate when the time is right... just wondering if this is a facet of my game I should incorporate. I do talk dirty when I'm having sex but again my question is more directed towards the early courting process.

Does talking about sex too early raise red flags for a woman?
It’s depends on who you are talking to and calibrating yourself to speak into their ‘listening’ of you.
 

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What are you talking to her on? Is this through text messenger? Did you meet her on a dating site? How long has she been quiet for? Did you double text when she didn't reply?

I am not good with text communication. I am not good at escalating things through text. I don't like text messaging in general and try to keep it short and to the point. Usually I take the mindset of texting to get the girl out as quick as possible. I don't understand how people can build rapport through text. With the lock downs going on, perhaps this strategy needs to change.

Members like @stormrider have preached that if you are high enough value, it doesn't matter what you do and say. How do you communicate value through text?
Through facebook messaging, actually met her on a dating site years ago when I was traveling. She always randomly hits me up, and expresses interest. I barely have any interest in her to be honest which is why I experimented saying that. Found it interesting she got quiet... maybe they just don't always know what to say though lol

Calibrated subcommunication/subtext/reading in-between-the-lines/innuendo is everything.
I guess I'll just stick to not talking about it and just escalate physically when given the opportunity.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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