Careful..... my ex wife (we were together 25yrs prior to her leaving me) and I had an agreement on this kinda thing for a long time.... I'd wake up... then begin taking her... she would enjoy it and even orgasm... eventually when we split tho she claimed all those times I did that... that I had raped her. Even tho she consented to it ahead of time and enjoyed it in the moment... she told me later I needed consent and had to ask each and every time and that every time I did that I just raped her.... and she was doing it against her will.... funny she nvr once said stop during those moments... it was after we split she told me and said shewont press charges .... i was all wtf.... so..fine line there..... I dunno if I'd ever trust that kind of agreement again. My new woman says wake her and take her anytime... but my programming now from the separation trauma has me very hesitant....
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Sex: Consent and being Forceful
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
mrgoodstuff
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Someone convinced her of that.
FuzzX
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If you are getting to that point, its time to bounce.
Yeah likely her new Mr money bags. I was trying so hard to keep us together for the kids... hind sight I shoulda left her long b4 she left me.. I just couldn't tho.... so... she did the leaving. And our kids hate her for it now. Especially since she moved to Quebec to be with Mr money bags.... turned out for the better..since I have our kids (took a year of separation for them to come to their own conclusions about the new guy that showed up immediately) . But I told her to go ahead and try and charge me for rape..... she didn't do squat but sure barked a storm about it...
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Yup and this is 90% of the #MeToo movement...women that are fine with it in the moment but then regret it later.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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Sorry for your situation. I just don’t get why women wreck homes and don’t think anything of it. They are so demonic.
No worries man thanks.... turned out for the better actually. I dated like 13 women including a FWB but have found one I'm gunna keep.... i get laid like tile now. So much with my new lady it's almost too much... nvr knew "too much" before so it's a nice change of pace. I don't even have to initiate.... been laid more times in the 9 months I spent so far with this new chick than the last 10yrs of marriage.... almost feel bad for the poor dude that gets her claws hooked into him... ex was hot. Hotter than my current gf... but looks can be deceiving.. but hey!! We made 2 good looking... productive kids.. but man oh man.... was she a prude. Buhahahahha.
Been with this lady now 9 months and separated for 2yrs...... few months ago introduced the kids (not really kids anymore) and they love her.... so will see how it all plays out over long term.... which I am planning now to keep her long term... but I won't ever try hard to keep us together like I did with my ex.
Funny you mention that.... she had brought that up a few times over our last bunch of months together...the whole "me too" thing..... its like a chain reaction or something.. I think some of it is legit but some of it is just n excuse..
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Quebec. I don't know why things are so expensive there considering they all live in their own little world. As soon as you said Quebec, I knew this was a Canadian woman thing. Every guy I know who married Canadian is currently part of the living dead. Every single one.
Well I'm canadian.... live in BC.... ex did too.. she met Mr money bags on an online mobile game as well.... he was buying her in-game stuff to be awesome with... we fought alot about this guy and she just didn't care.. things spiraled... and then I was out on the premise of a "trial separation".. then a month after that on my bday. I was told it was permanent... then 3 weeks after that Mr money bags shows up to stay for a month vacation with my ex.. my kids were all wtf.... this is wrong.... and they didn't Wana be their either and once the kids left to move with me.. she sold everything and moved from BC to Quebec to be with dude after he had visited several times here in BC.
I have the kids tho so I win lol... and new gf is way more fun haha.
I have the kids tho so I win lol... and new gf is way more fun haha.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
mrgoodstuff
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That's quite a "negative" view. But if that is the truth then its the truth. Some of these other cultures represent where America will be later on down the road.
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I would say a contributing factor
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We always used to say that the US is always 10 years behind the UK and it comes to California a few years sooner than that.
mrgoodstuff
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I learned they were marrying men to divorce them for their money in 2007 when I worked in California. I knew some of the situations were bad, but to already know your going to divorce a man up front to get his coin. That was 2007.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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The forceful middle-of-the-night times are always the hottest.
mrgoodstuff
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Wake up in the middle of the night realize your horny and look at her and take you some?
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Regardless of what actually happened, a woman can lie and accuse you of rape at any time.
So you have to be very careful what kind of women you get involved with.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.