Long time since I've been on this board, doing a lot of field stuff. Anyways, I've come to the conclusion that as far as I go, I can get a girl in bed, but apparently I have trouble getting into any LTR with them. I think my biggest problem has been that when a girl asks me the whole "where do we stand" question, I get sort of freaked out and don't want to sort of give into what seems like the power struggle and and sort of give some cryptic answer and just try to wait for her to give in first, which doesn't seem to work out well. For all you LTR masters, what do you do when you transition from sex to LTR? I suck at it.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Sex but no LTR
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Do not give them a straight answer. When any girl ask me any question like that I look into their eyes and use "you'll see" or "you will find out in time". It drives them crazy and they come with "what does that mean?" and just stare into their eyes. This way you could continue on in the relationship as YOU want with no bars. Truth is no one wants to be held down or felt obligated that they must do this or that because they are someones gf or bf. Just use those lines and play your cards how you want to,not off a fixed deck.
resilient
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Just don't be stupid like me in my last relationship where I said something along the lines of "I can't be in this relationship having sex with you if I know I'm not the only one sleeping in your bed." It had nice needy desperate guy writen all over that sentence. If she knew I had other options she would be fighting to keep me in her bed possibly.
I think I could have kept tapping that if I hadn't forced her to a decision to dump me because I was looking for exclusivity instead of letting her make up her mind naturally instead of being pressured to. I'm learning to trust the DJ bible and its values will uphold my respect as a man and to never ask for exclusivity again -- she has to ask me.
I like someone's signature quote on this board "A man is only as desperate as his options are."
I think I could have kept tapping that if I hadn't forced her to a decision to dump me because I was looking for exclusivity instead of letting her make up her mind naturally instead of being pressured to. I'm learning to trust the DJ bible and its values will uphold my respect as a man and to never ask for exclusivity again -- she has to ask me.
I like someone's signature quote on this board "A man is only as desperate as his options are."
MightyMate
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I also had this probklem. It was easy for me to get # or even **** many woman. But not to have LTR. Maybe i didnt want LTR with em donno. Anyways now im fine.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.