"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Senior year is going by quick and I need to step up my game.

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Well senior year is going by quick and will be over before I know and I need to step up my game. Winter Formal wasn't that great, because I made the mistake actually ASKING girls to grind which girls will almost always say 'no' to if they don't know you. Another mistake I made was instead of having fun, I just searched for girls to grind with the whole dance. Best part about the dance was probably just talking to girls and dancing by myself. I did grind with this Freshman girl twice, but that's all I got. Hopefully prom will be better. Anyway, back to the actual topic, senior year is going by quick and I want to step up my game. Right now, yeah I'm improving, but I haven't really gotten anywhere with a girl yet. Before the end of this year, I want to atleast get to the point with a girl where I can see her outside of school and maybe even get to the point of making out. And if I keep going at this pace, I know that's not going to happen, unless I start REALLY hardcore approaching. The process right now, is just going too slow. So how exactly can I get things moving faster?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Flirt with a lot of girls, maybe girls in your classes....get them to hang out with you, use lots of playful teasing, lots of kino...
 

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ARrocket said:
Flirt with a lot of girls, maybe girls in your classes....get them to hang out with you, use lots of playful teasing, lots of kino...
The thing is there are no really good girls in my classes except for maybe band which has some decent girls. So other than that, the only time I really have to approach is before first period, my 2 lunch periods and after school.
 

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wtf?? You have 2 lunch periods? Lucky bastard.

Yeah, band girls are the best :) I always meet a lot of girls through band.

Well, go for the band girls then. Idk how big your school is, but there are like 90 girls in the band at my school, that should keep you busy for awhile.
 

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ARrocket said:
wtf?? You have 2 lunch periods? Lucky bastard.

Yeah, band girls are the best :) I always meet a lot of girls through band.

Well, go for the band girls then. Idk how big your school is, but there are like 90 girls in the band at my school, that should keep you busy for awhile.
lol not really but I have one free period and you're allowed to go down to the lunch room during your free period. But yeah lol, it's basically like I have 2 lunches since I go down to the cafeteria anyway during my free period. And yeah, our band has a decent amount of girls, don't know which ones I'd actually want to go out with, though they could be good for practice. The first lunch period is basically Freshman girls, which sucks, however, I could do some approaching during the 2nd one.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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yeah, definitely use the freshman for practice.

Be careful approaching. idk about your school, but in many, there are a lot of cliques....she may be around all of her friends. I think a good place to open with a girl would be if you're standing with her in line or something.
 

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You know.. Last night I had a dream I was back in high school. I just started approaching everyone in class making conversation and in my dream I became pretty popular. It works in real life too. You just gotta start being out going and make conversation with people.
 

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I see. Well thanks for the advice. Yeah! Tommorow's going to be a day of huge change. Basically I'm just going to try approach more sets then I usually do and hey, in the event she's giving interest, I'll close. Winter Formal may have sucked, but tommorow is going to be very good to me seduction wise.
 

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ElStud said:
I see. Well thanks for the advice. Yeah! Tommorow's going to be a day of huge change. Basically I'm just going to try approach more sets then I usually do and hey, in the event she's giving interest, I'll close. Winter Formal may have sucked, but tommorow is going to be very good to me seduction wise.
In our school, anyone older than a sophmore would get made fun of badly for going out with a freshman. But hey, thats just my school.

Im a sophmore and I try to talk to other sophmore girls or even freshman.
 

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krazyboy99 said:
don't be too picky either. you have to start somewhere.
That was my mistake in high school. If I didn't stupidly go for the cutest girls I may have actually gotten a few "regular" chicks.
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In our school, anyone older than a sophmore would get made fun of badly for going out with a freshman. But hey, thats just my school.

Im a sophmore and I try to talk to other sophmore girls or even freshman.
Being made fun of for going after a freshman is much better than graduating high school without getting a single girl. I think there were several lowerclassmen girls that liked me or that I could have had a shot with if only I wasn't so stupid.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Maxtro said:
That was my mistake in high school. If I didn't stupidly go for the cutest girls I may have actually gotten a few "regular" chicks.

Being made fun of for going after a freshman is much better than graduating high school without getting a single girl. I think there were several lowerclassmen girls that liked me or that I could have had a shot with if only I wasn't so stupid.
Well I guess everyone has to start somewhere. Prolly best not to shoot for the stars right away lol.
 

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If you don't work toward adulthood (e.g. by either going to college or working toward some profession)...I can assure you that your "game" will fall short. Very short by the time you reach upper 20s.
 

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eaglez1177 said:
In our school, anyone older than a sophmore would get made fun of badly for going out with a freshman. But hey, thats just my school.

Im a sophmore and I try to talk to other sophmore girls or even freshman.
Not the case at my school lol but my thing with Freshman girls is most of them just look too young for me, although there are a few Freshman chicks I would do. Plus lol when I hit 18(I'll really be 18 come late March) banging Freshman chicks will officially be 'illegal'. Still Freshman girls are good to practice on.
 
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Don't worry bro you're learning and thats the most important thing. plus the real fun happens in college and after ;)
 

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wow, elstud i just feel we have this strange connection

You had a bad winter formal, i had a bad winter formal, we have so much in common. :rolleyes:

In my school I have known only a few seniors who have gone out with freshmen, and good luck getting away with it with your bros unless the chicks are very good looking.

Otherwise, the only other time that happens is in sad relationships that distract the girl from learning and turn her into a hood rat.

How do you manage not to look like a creep around freshmen though? (im not hating, just asking)
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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