Well senior year is going by quick and will be over before I know and I need to step up my game. Winter Formal wasn't that great, because I made the mistake actually ASKING girls to grind which girls will almost always say 'no' to if they don't know you. Another mistake I made was instead of having fun, I just searched for girls to grind with the whole dance. Best part about the dance was probably just talking to girls and dancing by myself. I did grind with this Freshman girl twice, but that's all I got. Hopefully prom will be better. Anyway, back to the actual topic, senior year is going by quick and I want to step up my game. Right now, yeah I'm improving, but I haven't really gotten anywhere with a girl yet. Before the end of this year, I want to atleast get to the point with a girl where I can see her outside of school and maybe even get to the point of making out. And if I keep going at this pace, I know that's not going to happen, unless I start REALLY hardcore approaching. The process right now, is just going too slow. So how exactly can I get things moving faster?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Senior year is going by quick and I need to step up my game.
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
Flirt with a lot of girls, maybe girls in your classes....get them to hang out with you, use lots of playful teasing, lots of kino...
The thing is there are no really good girls in my classes except for maybe band which has some decent girls. So other than that, the only time I really have to approach is before first period, my 2 lunch periods and after school.ARrocket said:
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
wtf?? You have 2 lunch periods? Lucky bastard.
Yeah, band girls are the best
I always meet a lot of girls through band.
Well, go for the band girls then. Idk how big your school is, but there are like 90 girls in the band at my school, that should keep you busy for awhile.
Yeah, band girls are the best
I always meet a lot of girls through band.Well, go for the band girls then. Idk how big your school is, but there are like 90 girls in the band at my school, that should keep you busy for awhile.
lol not really but I have one free period and you're allowed to go down to the lunch room during your free period. But yeah lol, it's basically like I have 2 lunches since I go down to the cafeteria anyway during my free period. And yeah, our band has a decent amount of girls, don't know which ones I'd actually want to go out with, though they could be good for practice. The first lunch period is basically Freshman girls, which sucks, however, I could do some approaching during the 2nd one.ARrocket said:wtf?? You have 2 lunch periods? Lucky bastard.
Yeah, band girls are the best
Well, go for the band girls then. Idk how big your school is, but there are like 90 girls in the band at my school, that should keep you busy for awhile.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
yeah, definitely use the freshman for practice.
Be careful approaching. idk about your school, but in many, there are a lot of cliques....she may be around all of her friends. I think a good place to open with a girl would be if you're standing with her in line or something.
Be careful approaching. idk about your school, but in many, there are a lot of cliques....she may be around all of her friends. I think a good place to open with a girl would be if you're standing with her in line or something.
I.A.F.Y.B.
Master Don Juan
You know.. Last night I had a dream I was back in high school. I just started approaching everyone in class making conversation and in my dream I became pretty popular. It works in real life too. You just gotta start being out going and make conversation with people.
I see. Well thanks for the advice. Yeah! Tommorow's going to be a day of huge change. Basically I'm just going to try approach more sets then I usually do and hey, in the event she's giving interest, I'll close. Winter Formal may have sucked, but tommorow is going to be very good to me seduction wise.
eaglez1177
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In our school, anyone older than a sophmore would get made fun of badly for going out with a freshman. But hey, thats just my school.ElStud said:
Im a sophmore and I try to talk to other sophmore girls or even freshman.
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
That was my mistake in high school. If I didn't stupidly go for the cutest girls I may have actually gotten a few "regular" chicks.krazyboy99 said:
Being made fun of for going after a freshman is much better than graduating high school without getting a single girl. I think there were several lowerclassmen girls that liked me or that I could have had a shot with if only I wasn't so stupid.eaglez1177 said:
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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Well I guess everyone has to start somewhere. Prolly best not to shoot for the stars right away lol.Maxtro said:
Not the case at my school lol but my thing with Freshman girls is most of them just look too young for me, although there are a few Freshman chicks I would do. Plus lol when I hit 18(I'll really be 18 come late March) banging Freshman chicks will officially be 'illegal'. Still Freshman girls are good to practice on.eaglez1177 said:
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The Inside Man
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Don't worry bro you're learning and thats the most important thing. plus the real fun happens in college and after
zubs
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wow, elstud i just feel we have this strange connection
You had a bad winter formal, i had a bad winter formal, we have so much in common.
In my school I have known only a few seniors who have gone out with freshmen, and good luck getting away with it with your bros unless the chicks are very good looking.
Otherwise, the only other time that happens is in sad relationships that distract the girl from learning and turn her into a hood rat.
How do you manage not to look like a creep around freshmen though? (im not hating, just asking)
You had a bad winter formal, i had a bad winter formal, we have so much in common.
In my school I have known only a few seniors who have gone out with freshmen, and good luck getting away with it with your bros unless the chicks are very good looking.
Otherwise, the only other time that happens is in sad relationships that distract the girl from learning and turn her into a hood rat.
How do you manage not to look like a creep around freshmen though? (im not hating, just asking)
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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