"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Well senior year is going by quick and will be over before I know and I need to step up my game. Winter Formal wasn't that great, because I made the mistake actually ASKING girls to grind which girls will almost always say 'no' to if they don't know you. Another mistake I made was instead of having fun, I just searched for girls to grind with the whole dance. Best part about the dance was probably just talking to girls and dancing by myself. I did grind with this Freshman girl twice, but that's all I got. Hopefully prom will be better. Anyway, back to the actual topic, senior year is going by quick and I want to step up my game. Right now, yeah I'm improving, but I haven't really gotten anywhere with a girl yet. Before the end of this year, I want to atleast get to the point with a girl where I can see her outside of school and maybe even get to the point of making out. And if I keep going at this pace, I know that's not going to happen, unless I start REALLY hardcore approaching. The process right now, is just going too slow. So how exactly can I get things moving faster?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Flirt with a lot of girls, maybe girls in your classes....get them to hang out with you, use lots of playful teasing, lots of kino...
 

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ARrocket said:
Flirt with a lot of girls, maybe girls in your classes....get them to hang out with you, use lots of playful teasing, lots of kino...
The thing is there are no really good girls in my classes except for maybe band which has some decent girls. So other than that, the only time I really have to approach is before first period, my 2 lunch periods and after school.
 

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wtf?? You have 2 lunch periods? Lucky bastard.

Yeah, band girls are the best :) I always meet a lot of girls through band.

Well, go for the band girls then. Idk how big your school is, but there are like 90 girls in the band at my school, that should keep you busy for awhile.
 

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ARrocket said:
wtf?? You have 2 lunch periods? Lucky bastard.

Yeah, band girls are the best :) I always meet a lot of girls through band.

Well, go for the band girls then. Idk how big your school is, but there are like 90 girls in the band at my school, that should keep you busy for awhile.
lol not really but I have one free period and you're allowed to go down to the lunch room during your free period. But yeah lol, it's basically like I have 2 lunches since I go down to the cafeteria anyway during my free period. And yeah, our band has a decent amount of girls, don't know which ones I'd actually want to go out with, though they could be good for practice. The first lunch period is basically Freshman girls, which sucks, however, I could do some approaching during the 2nd one.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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yeah, definitely use the freshman for practice.

Be careful approaching. idk about your school, but in many, there are a lot of cliques....she may be around all of her friends. I think a good place to open with a girl would be if you're standing with her in line or something.
 

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You know.. Last night I had a dream I was back in high school. I just started approaching everyone in class making conversation and in my dream I became pretty popular. It works in real life too. You just gotta start being out going and make conversation with people.
 

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I see. Well thanks for the advice. Yeah! Tommorow's going to be a day of huge change. Basically I'm just going to try approach more sets then I usually do and hey, in the event she's giving interest, I'll close. Winter Formal may have sucked, but tommorow is going to be very good to me seduction wise.
 

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ElStud said:
I see. Well thanks for the advice. Yeah! Tommorow's going to be a day of huge change. Basically I'm just going to try approach more sets then I usually do and hey, in the event she's giving interest, I'll close. Winter Formal may have sucked, but tommorow is going to be very good to me seduction wise.
In our school, anyone older than a sophmore would get made fun of badly for going out with a freshman. But hey, thats just my school.

Im a sophmore and I try to talk to other sophmore girls or even freshman.
 

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krazyboy99 said:
don't be too picky either. you have to start somewhere.
That was my mistake in high school. If I didn't stupidly go for the cutest girls I may have actually gotten a few "regular" chicks.
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In our school, anyone older than a sophmore would get made fun of badly for going out with a freshman. But hey, thats just my school.

Im a sophmore and I try to talk to other sophmore girls or even freshman.
Being made fun of for going after a freshman is much better than graduating high school without getting a single girl. I think there were several lowerclassmen girls that liked me or that I could have had a shot with if only I wasn't so stupid.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Maxtro said:
That was my mistake in high school. If I didn't stupidly go for the cutest girls I may have actually gotten a few "regular" chicks.

Being made fun of for going after a freshman is much better than graduating high school without getting a single girl. I think there were several lowerclassmen girls that liked me or that I could have had a shot with if only I wasn't so stupid.
Well I guess everyone has to start somewhere. Prolly best not to shoot for the stars right away lol.
 

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If you don't work toward adulthood (e.g. by either going to college or working toward some profession)...I can assure you that your "game" will fall short. Very short by the time you reach upper 20s.
 

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eaglez1177 said:
In our school, anyone older than a sophmore would get made fun of badly for going out with a freshman. But hey, thats just my school.

Im a sophmore and I try to talk to other sophmore girls or even freshman.
Not the case at my school lol but my thing with Freshman girls is most of them just look too young for me, although there are a few Freshman chicks I would do. Plus lol when I hit 18(I'll really be 18 come late March) banging Freshman chicks will officially be 'illegal'. Still Freshman girls are good to practice on.
 
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Don't worry bro you're learning and thats the most important thing. plus the real fun happens in college and after ;)
 

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wow, elstud i just feel we have this strange connection

You had a bad winter formal, i had a bad winter formal, we have so much in common. :rolleyes:

In my school I have known only a few seniors who have gone out with freshmen, and good luck getting away with it with your bros unless the chicks are very good looking.

Otherwise, the only other time that happens is in sad relationships that distract the girl from learning and turn her into a hood rat.

How do you manage not to look like a creep around freshmen though? (im not hating, just asking)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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