"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Self rejection (another whiny post).

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I believe that out of everyone I'm the total exception to the rule, in that I am deserving of nothing. I feel this way yet I continue to have wants and needs and this is very conflicting. I get times in which a woman would give me signals and I would take notice of it but would never take the initiative to find out if it was genuine. I would always rationalize it as her "being friendly" regardless of what I want. I realize this pattern and all the many opportunities I had, but sill I continue to convince myself that no kind of woman would ever want anything to do with me. I just see myself as a big nobody. I can't even remember how long I've been feeling this way for.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Stop thinking too much. And keep the focus on yourself! Who cares what woman think. You never know what a woman thinks, you can't read them. Don't look for signs either, too complicated.
What you should do is work on the right mindset. What do YOU like in woman, and what kind of woman do YOU like?

To give you an actual example: today i asked a girl out. I think she is nice but she was never giving me a sign of interest, looked even more into my friend. And surprising she said yes so we visit a concert this weekend. I did not expect that she would say yes but even if sje rejected, wtf, would she put a gun against my head? She must be glad that I asked her.

That's a better way of thinking. Read the dj bible on mindsets and anti dump.
 

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^^^^^^^^

I already know what I want/like but as I've mentioned before... as much as I may want something I never feel as if I'm deserving of anything. Could be conditioning from a miserable childhood and teen years which I hated even more. I have 0 control over my thoughts.
 

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It is not about what you deserve. It is about what you want and how to reach that. It sucks when people have a bad childhood but it is not an excuse about the way you are thinking on this subject.
I think you are afraid of rejection, which is normal. But deal with it and calculate in it that there will be rejections. It's part of it. So read anti dump and if it's really getiing out of hand get professional help.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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LittleBigOne said:
It is not about what you deserve. It is about what you want and how to reach that. It sucks when people have a bad childhood but it is not an excuse about the way you are thinking on this subject.
I think you are afraid of rejection, which is normal. But deal with it and calculate in it that there will be rejections. It's part of it. So read anti dump and if it's really getiing out of hand get professional help.
this guy is right. youre simply afraid of rejection. i am too. I use to think i was unworthy but then i changed my appearance into something that was worthy and now im working on my rjectino by appraoching people once i overcome my AA
 

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The part of getting professional help on the other hand has been greatly considered but due to insurance issues it is not feasible at the moment.
 

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C-quenced said:
I've been through enough rejection to not really care so much about it.
Are you sure you have been rejected so much? You said you never really showed geniun interest to a woman. So basicly you rejected YOURSELF.

Have the guts to act!
 

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^^ Life is all about taking control. Being the master of your environment. Things won't happen if you don't make them happen. Hand outs, relying on other people (including the people who will attempt to help you in this post) will only get you so far.

At some point, you must realize that with every day that passes, your inevitable death is on its way. Now, that's not a sad thought. It's a happy one in the fact that it means you should appreciate every day, make the most of it. Take control.
 

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I agree with where your coming from C-quenced. Ive had similar thoughts in my life.

The thing is, we all think that we, personally, are the exception to the rule in one way or another...because we are ourselves...and we as ourselves view the world from first person. The thing is, some people use this mentality in a positive sense, thinking they are above everyone and everything else and go on to accomplish great things, or at least have the beleif to keep trying.

Other people however (yourself included) view this exception to the rule mentality in the negative sense. They feel they dont fit in, they feel they are unique in a bad way, and feel they should be socially outcasted from the 'common stock'.

At the end of the day we are all different, some people think more than others, some people do more than others.

GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD MAN!!! and start experiencing. And try not to over-analyze every tiny incrimental detail of your day. For the most part no-one is heavily critiquing you and judging you...try to relax more, and you will find people will respond to the relaxed vibes you give off subconsciously.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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