"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Seducing women with your eyes..
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
al77
Master Don Juan
No I dont think it is a good way...I think women dont like a lot of eye contact, when you are eager to look at her... at her eyes...
it makes you appear too eager.. and somewhat desperate.
Less attention, less eye conact, the more she'll think you are a great man.
I am reading now Leil Lowndes book, she goes on on and eye contact... gee...she is a woman. She is a pretty woman. Of course eye contact works for women. Not for men!
If you stare at her long enough, she'll think you are either weird or desperate. If she stares at you - what would you think? Sure, "She like me!Ohhh!!"
englishcrap
Senior Don Juan
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Jippii
Don Juan
You don't get laid much, do you?
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I'd reconsider that assumption. The problem that women have had with men looking at them was that we would typically leer at them. Seldom do they ever complain about us looking into their eyes, it was always when we looked elsewhere.
I don't get the idea of how less eye contact would be a characteristic of a great man. I have always felt the feeling of uncomfortableness about the situation or themselves whenever I come across a person that made minimal eye contact. Some people even feel that the person is less than genuine.
What Leil talks about in her book actually works if you're a guy too, at least it does for me. But then again, I don't stare at women. However, I do gaze at them. They typically enjoy it especially when I smile and say "Hello" to them with an approving nod. The usually smile, blush and look away, but only for a moment. When they look up again to see if I'm still enjoying the view, I wink at her in acknowledgment. Things just kicks off from there.
I've said it before but the best way to interact with women is to stimulate her emotionally. When you think about it, how does an attractive guy effects a woman? If you ask a woman, after digging down she will more than likely tell you that his looks made her feel a particular way. Interesting huh?
So consider this, even though you do not look like Brad Pitt, what is stopping you from making a woman feel that particular feeling when she's with you? Could it be how you look at her or how your voice resonates whenever you say her name? ABSOLUTELY!
It's all about your presentation, on multiple levels. Tickle her emotions and you will definitely set yourself off from the typical guy on the street.
Bonhomme
Master Don Juan
I could not resist.
While it's not generally a good idea to go with women's advice on dating, their opinions about what is or is not sexy are often solid gold. One such example is what a majority of women say is the sexiest part of a man's body: his eyes.
The key, al77, is the difference between good, warm, sensual eye contact, and cold, nervous staring. And people can usually sense the difference from across a big room. It's the quality that makes the difference.
Eye contact and kino are the key points in engaging a woman sexually, unless, of course you are really good with words. But even if you are an ace wordsmith, you can botch the whole thing with poor eye contact.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
You must not be talking about Earth, I hold that honor...
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I've noticed that if I give friendly eye contact a chick will normally say "hi", often with a smile on their face.
BTW I have the sexiest eyes in the south. Actually had a teacher in high school stop and mention how hot I am.:cheer: :cheer:
In reality I have women say that I flirt with my eyes.........
Does that make sense? Like there's some unspoken secret that only the two of you know.
The hard part is, how to get that look with any girl you're interested in.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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Just busting your balls. Quite trying to think that you need to do this or that to pick up women or appear sexy to them. You are qualifying yourself and most of the time you qualify yourself you are the only one who notices. Come on, Mental Kino? You can sit there for a year trying to practice telekinesis on women but you cant get there panties off or their bra's to unsnap without actual physical contact.
belividere
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Your mouth can actually say a lot more though
http://www.insiderreports.com/storypage.asp_Q_ChanID_E_MR_A_StoryID_E_20000305
this thread [Seducing women with your eyes..] is about using your eyes not your mouth mate, start a new one if you want to talk about talking.
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If you haven't realized yet that human interactions are not quantifiable than you are still at square one. Yes women can read body language better than most men. Yes how you present yourself will hold up highly in first impressions. When you feel that keeping your eyes open half way or all the way is what makes or breaks your game you may want to consider your other options. Like I said though you guys can sit around worrying about stupid sh1t like this well someone else moves in with a more congruent and natural game.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.