"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Second Date No Kiss on Close

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Okay, so had successful first date, and got a second date during which I didn't really get any vibe from her to go for kiss close, but I did initiate heavy kino (small of back, arms, hands, legs, stomach) but all I was getting was slight bumping into me and open body language. After the second date I gave them a double kiss on the cheek (figured some progress is better than none).

Unlike last time though she didn't mention any future plans of meeting up.

Have I totally screwed this up? Is a full on kiss on close a big deal if the person seems to be hesitant?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Kiss on the cheek?? Only cheek I'm kissing is butt cheeks! Lmao jk. Been there man sometimes you have to CREATE an opportunity yourself. There's no right time just man up and do it! Otherwise from sound of it you're heading down friend zone quick.

And why should she mention plans?! That's your job bro! You're the man. Wait few days ask her out again have fun make her laugh and kiss close at least. Good luck.
 
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Then she's busy lol stop stressing about it. Wait few days again and set a date, no counter offer then next her.
 
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Better to go for it and get rejected. If you get a third date better create an opportunity
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Busy with no attempt to reschedule. Guess I blew it.
 
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Okay, so after a couple of days she replied saying she's busy with her current project at work, and it's effectively clogging up all her time this month but offered a rain check (with no counter offer)

Do I follow the suite in this article: http://www.sosuave.com/quick/tip167.htm

Or do I simply next her? This is the second time she's given me the run around, the previous time she was busy, after that she was distant when I saw her.


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Move on bro. This one's cooked.
She's flaked twice with no counter offer and even threw in the old "I won't be free for a month" excuse.
She's just trying to let you down easy. Don't give her any more of your time and conserve your pride.
 
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And do I even bother replying? I tend to see her in a group setting on weekends and she waited 2 days to reply do I even waste time replying rather than wait till I see her in person?

Assume I just say reply with a short answer, pretty much showing minimal concern?

Edit: Also she's really only got next week, as the week after that she's gone for an Easter holiday for a week.

Her words were she's busy with work until Easter for now, after which she hopes to be done with it and offered the rain check. (Basic gist, was a bit more in-depth).
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Bali said:
And do I even bother replying? I tend to see her in a group setting on weekends and she waited 2 days to reply do I even waste time replying rather than wait till I see her in person?

Assume I just say reply with a short answer, pretty much showing minimal concern?

Edit: Also she's really only got next week, as the week after that she's gone for an Easter holiday for a week.

Her words were she's busy with work until Easter for now, after which she hopes to be done with it and offered the rain check. (Basic gist, was a bit more in-depth).
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Read what you just wrote and you will realize that now you are explaining her side of things.

That means she got some what of a control on you.

She is keeping you on a lease- would you like to stay on the lease ? Choice is yours.

If yes > reply back with whatever you feel is right
If no > reply back with "K text me once you are free from all the clutter and we can set up something"

Then do not text her until she texts you back to set up a date- don't text chat her or keep in touch with her -you'll end up in the friend zone with no chance of return since you are already didn't do anything on the first two dates you had.

Good Luck
 
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mv.89 said:
Read what you just wrote and you will realize that now you are explaining her side of things.

That means she got some what of a control on you.

She is keeping you on a lease- would you like to stay on the lease ? Choice is yours.

If yes > reply back with whatever you feel is right
If no > reply back with "K text me once you are free from all the clutter and we can set up something"

Then do not text her until she texts you back to set up a date- don't text chat her or keep in touch with her -you'll end up in the friend zone with no chance of return since you are already didn't do anything on the first two dates you had.

Good Luck
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Thanks, I went with the obvious answer, but with tweaked wording. NC starts today.
 
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