"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Second Date No Kiss on Close

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Okay, so had successful first date, and got a second date during which I didn't really get any vibe from her to go for kiss close, but I did initiate heavy kino (small of back, arms, hands, legs, stomach) but all I was getting was slight bumping into me and open body language. After the second date I gave them a double kiss on the cheek (figured some progress is better than none).

Unlike last time though she didn't mention any future plans of meeting up.

Have I totally screwed this up? Is a full on kiss on close a big deal if the person seems to be hesitant?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Kiss on the cheek?? Only cheek I'm kissing is butt cheeks! Lmao jk. Been there man sometimes you have to CREATE an opportunity yourself. There's no right time just man up and do it! Otherwise from sound of it you're heading down friend zone quick.

And why should she mention plans?! That's your job bro! You're the man. Wait few days ask her out again have fun make her laugh and kiss close at least. Good luck.
 

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Then she's busy lol stop stressing about it. Wait few days again and set a date, no counter offer then next her.
 

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Better to go for it and get rejected. If you get a third date better create an opportunity
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Busy with no attempt to reschedule. Guess I blew it.
 

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Okay, so after a couple of days she replied saying she's busy with her current project at work, and it's effectively clogging up all her time this month but offered a rain check (with no counter offer)

Do I follow the suite in this article: http://www.sosuave.com/quick/tip167.htm

Or do I simply next her? This is the second time she's given me the run around, the previous time she was busy, after that she was distant when I saw her.


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Move on bro. This one's cooked.
She's flaked twice with no counter offer and even threw in the old "I won't be free for a month" excuse.
She's just trying to let you down easy. Don't give her any more of your time and conserve your pride.
 

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And do I even bother replying? I tend to see her in a group setting on weekends and she waited 2 days to reply do I even waste time replying rather than wait till I see her in person?

Assume I just say reply with a short answer, pretty much showing minimal concern?

Edit: Also she's really only got next week, as the week after that she's gone for an Easter holiday for a week.

Her words were she's busy with work until Easter for now, after which she hopes to be done with it and offered the rain check. (Basic gist, was a bit more in-depth).
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Bali said:
And do I even bother replying? I tend to see her in a group setting on weekends and she waited 2 days to reply do I even waste time replying rather than wait till I see her in person?

Assume I just say reply with a short answer, pretty much showing minimal concern?

Edit: Also she's really only got next week, as the week after that she's gone for an Easter holiday for a week.

Her words were she's busy with work until Easter for now, after which she hopes to be done with it and offered the rain check. (Basic gist, was a bit more in-depth).

Read what you just wrote and you will realize that now you are explaining her side of things.

That means she got some what of a control on you.

She is keeping you on a lease- would you like to stay on the lease ? Choice is yours.

If yes > reply back with whatever you feel is right
If no > reply back with "K text me once you are free from all the clutter and we can set up something"

Then do not text her until she texts you back to set up a date- don't text chat her or keep in touch with her -you'll end up in the friend zone with no chance of return since you are already didn't do anything on the first two dates you had.

Good Luck
 

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mv.89 said:
Read what you just wrote and you will realize that now you are explaining her side of things.

That means she got some what of a control on you.

She is keeping you on a lease- would you like to stay on the lease ? Choice is yours.

If yes > reply back with whatever you feel is right
If no > reply back with "K text me once you are free from all the clutter and we can set up something"

Then do not text her until she texts you back to set up a date- don't text chat her or keep in touch with her -you'll end up in the friend zone with no chance of return since you are already didn't do anything on the first two dates you had.

Good Luck
Thanks, I went with the obvious answer, but with tweaked wording. NC starts today.
 
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