"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Same sort of approach, she said "aww thank you'

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IMO, if you are doing this, the goal should be to become more comfortable with talking to women in general so you can apply this to situations that have a much better success rate than running up on randos in public and increase your success rates there rather than expecting to actually pick up these women more than once in a very very blue moon.
But sometimes I'm bored and I'm not in a "target rich" environment where women are in "that head space". It's something interesting to do. In all honesty, there have been times I've done something like this, and later the woman find me talking to other women and having fun. She becomes more interested in talking to me.

I only talk to women who are also bored. If they are busy, I leave them alone. Life is boring most of the time. Conversations and compliments make life interesting for everyone involved.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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This very attractive women, smart jacket well dressed, I saw walk past and then had a distance of 10 meters ahead of me

I thought to myself "if it goes well how can I stack the convo"

I walked, as I was beside her my pace matched her pace

I go "excuse me"

She looked and made eye contact

I then said "I just saw you and I just had to say hello to you"

At this point my mind wasn't right and I felt I was qualifying myself to her

She made eye contact and said "aww thank you"

Then walked off
Thanks for the ego boost, sucker.
 

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People here are negative regarding cold approaching

What about all these puas that do it and get results?

And normal men who "go for it" and eventually get a girlfriend

Years ago I cold approached. I opened some women and had them chatting, however I could not close.
 

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People here are negative regarding cold approaching

What about all these puas that do it and get results?

And normal men who "go for it" and eventually get a girlfriend

Years ago I cold approached. I opened some women and had them chatting, however I could not close.
PUAs are typically sociopaths who engage in a grotesque degree of grinding for meager returns that they publicly exaggerate. “Normal” men meet through social circle.
 

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I think for men in their 20s if they attractive, they may get hit on non verbally by women and I'm sure that's how most of them get GFs.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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And normal men who meet women through social circle settle for less most of the time.
Less compared to what? There is not a chance in hell they’d do better through “cold approach.”
 

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The funny thing is that it's true, I date a 19yo Slovak model signed with a prestigious model agency in Prague. My ex-girlfriend was a model too.
Cold approach. You don't know what you're missing.
Gaslighting
 

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I've cold approached before and if you work on yourself and know what you are doing.

It can work for you.

My experiences only.
 

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This very attractive women, smart jacket well dressed, I saw walk past and then had a distance of 10 meters ahead of me

I thought to myself "if it goes well how can I stack the convo"

I walked, as I was beside her my pace matched her pace

I go "excuse me"

She looked and made eye contact

I then said "I just saw you and I just had to say hello to you"

At this point my mind wasn't right and I felt I was qualifying myself to her

She made eye contact and said "aww thank you"

Then walked off
At least you had the balls to approach, more than most guys do.

You will get there. I know it's hard, but got to keep going.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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If i already have a GF or plate and getting regular sex, i defintley feel more confident. Plate me walks with more confidence. Having a plate or GF makes you more confident and less needy in the approach, less thirsty. Definitley.
 

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I think a large number of men have a desperate mentality and think it's a good idea to approach a woman who is on her way somewhere doing something. You should simply pick situations and places where people go to be social and socialize.

Don't assume that because she is physically attractive that she is interesting or a nice person. You've already given her instant approval by "approaching" her. Better to think " I'm going to have fun and if I actually enjoy our conversation maybe I'll see if she would like to get my contact information.". You are testing the waters to see if she is going to be fun or a pain to deal with.

Do not give women instant approval.
 

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I think a large number of men have a desperate mentality and think it's a good idea to approach a woman who is on her way somewhere doing something. You should simply pick situations and places where people go to be social and socialize.

Don't assume that because she is physically attractive that she is interesting or a nice person. You've already given her instant approval by "approaching" her. Better to think " I'm going to have fun and if I actually enjoy our conversation maybe I'll see if she would like to get my contact information.". You are testing the waters to see if she is going to be fun or a pain to deal with.

Do not give women instant approval.
The idea that men are “too scared to approach” is a boomer fantasy. Women get mobbed everywhere in fact, which only contributes to their egotism and reticence.
 

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This is a woman's version of your Grandma giving you a pat on the head as a little boy and telling you "good boy".
 

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Patb. Yeah I think that women are too used to the instant approval and take it for granted. The men who approach women randomly and meet them that way, if it works for them that's fine. I don't personally think it's the best way for the majority.

You have one group, say guys like MikeD who meet women that way. They do it a lot and it works for them. They probably also have a pretty thick skin and are willing to take lots of rejections. There's another group who are trying to learn to mert women and they think walking up to random women on the street is the way to go. The problem is their nerves are working against them, approaching women on the street has a fairly low success rate (percent), women are typically doing something else, and the guy trying to learn to meet women is already giving her instant approval.

There are better ways that are easier, more fun, with a higher amount of success, and are beginner-friendly with lower rejection in more relaxed settings. MikeD probably has fun but probably also doesn't come across as desperate. So it works for him. Everything works some of the time.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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lol OP get it together

Today I was going about myself and some 20 year young girl said “I like your shirt”

I said “thank you”

and walked off
 
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