"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Ross Jefferies - How to Pull the Girl Behind The Bar

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Alot of this stuff seems really freaky. I downloaded his book and he advises the following to do when u want to pull the girl who works behind the bar.

1. Send the girl some flowers.
2. Get a White T-Shirt and print on it "It was Me Who Sent The Flowers For U"
3. When shes working on evening put your t-shirt on and stand at the bar with your T-Shirt on.
4. Apparently she will burst into laughter. Then u ask her for her number.

Does this really work ? Any of you DJ's done this ?. Is it worth a try ?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Sounds like a crazy AFC attempt to me. Has this ever been field tested ?
 
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Don't believe anything you get from a Ross Jeffries product. The guy is a tool and he never gets laid. The stuff he has that actually works he stole from people much better with women than he is.

Don't bother with Speed Seduction stuff. I studied it for years and only have a lighter bank account to show for it.

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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Ross Jeffries is a good confidence tutor, but a total fraud when it comes to seduction.

Everything he teaches is theory. Like Speed Seduction, it is very logical and believable theory based on established NLP techniques, but it is not practical.

I would never advise doing anything like the tip in your post. It would not only make you look desperate and immediately place her on a pedestal, it would most likely scare the hell out of her!

I notice all these seduction masters state "You do X and she will do Y". Tip to all seduction experts: women have minds of their own. If women were this predictable, we wouldn't be reading your material. Go write a Mills and Boon novel instead.

They base all this theory around a girl's reaction and when a girl reacts differently it all falls apart.

I would suggest you pay more attention to the experiences of people on this board than the seduction "experts".
 
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Thanks Guys, I was pretty sure this book I download for free was crap..there was another one where he carries a tampax around with him in his pocket :D

When a girl gives him **** he pulls out the tampox and says hey I think u need this more then my sister..supposedly the girl says oh and then calms down :D and hands over her number. Go figure guys ??
Originally posted by Jariel
Ross Jeffries is a good confidence tutor, but a total fraud when it comes to seduction.

Everything he teaches is theory. Like Speed Seduction, it is very logical and believable theory based on established NLP techniques, but it is not practical.

I would never advise doing anything like the tip in your post. It would not only make you look desperate and immediately place her on a pedestal, it would most likely scare the hell out of her!

I notice all these seduction masters state "You do X and she will do Y". Tip to all seduction experts: women have minds of their own. If women were this predictable, we wouldn't be reading your material. Go write a Mills and Boon novel instead.

They base all this theory around a girl's reaction and when a girl reacts differently it all falls apart.

I would suggest you pay more attention to the experiences of people on this board than the seduction "experts".
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Originally posted by englishcrap
1. Send the girl some flowers.
2. Get a White T-Shirt and print on it "It was Me Who Sent The Flowers For U"
3. When shes working on evening put your t-shirt on and stand at the bar with your T-Shirt on.
4. Apparently she will burst into laughter. Then u ask her for her number.
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Originally posted by englishcrap
there was another one where he carries a tampax around with him in his pocket. When a girl gives him **** he pulls out the tampox and says hey I think u need this more then my sister..supposedly the girl says oh and then calms down :D and hands over her number.
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Sounds to me like he's running out of ideas...
 
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RJ never had any ideas. Everything he teaches he stole from someone else and repackaged. All his NLP junk was taken from Bandler and Ericson, his first product was all taken from Kenrick Cleaveland, and his second incarnation was mostly Major Mark stuff. But once everyone realized what an unstable guy RJ was, they distanced themselves and now he has no one left to rip off.

I mean a TAMPON? WTF? What kind of guy carries around a tampon, other than a douchebag?

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Originally posted by englishcrap
Thanks Guys, I was pretty sure this book I download for free was crap..there was another one where he carries a tampax around with him in his pocket :D

When a girl gives him **** he pulls out the tampox and says hey I think u need this more then my sister..supposedly the girl says oh and then calms down :D and hands over her number. Go figure guys ??
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Give him her number? the most probable outcome of that is
a) you getting slapped
b) you getting kicked in the ballz
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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