"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Ross Jefferies - How to Pull the Girl Behind The Bar

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Alot of this stuff seems really freaky. I downloaded his book and he advises the following to do when u want to pull the girl who works behind the bar.

1. Send the girl some flowers.
2. Get a White T-Shirt and print on it "It was Me Who Sent The Flowers For U"
3. When shes working on evening put your t-shirt on and stand at the bar with your T-Shirt on.
4. Apparently she will burst into laughter. Then u ask her for her number.

Does this really work ? Any of you DJ's done this ?. Is it worth a try ?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Sounds like a crazy AFC attempt to me. Has this ever been field tested ?
 
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Don't believe anything you get from a Ross Jeffries product. The guy is a tool and he never gets laid. The stuff he has that actually works he stole from people much better with women than he is.

Don't bother with Speed Seduction stuff. I studied it for years and only have a lighter bank account to show for it.

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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Ross Jeffries is a good confidence tutor, but a total fraud when it comes to seduction.

Everything he teaches is theory. Like Speed Seduction, it is very logical and believable theory based on established NLP techniques, but it is not practical.

I would never advise doing anything like the tip in your post. It would not only make you look desperate and immediately place her on a pedestal, it would most likely scare the hell out of her!

I notice all these seduction masters state "You do X and she will do Y". Tip to all seduction experts: women have minds of their own. If women were this predictable, we wouldn't be reading your material. Go write a Mills and Boon novel instead.

They base all this theory around a girl's reaction and when a girl reacts differently it all falls apart.

I would suggest you pay more attention to the experiences of people on this board than the seduction "experts".
 
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Thanks Guys, I was pretty sure this book I download for free was crap..there was another one where he carries a tampax around with him in his pocket :D

When a girl gives him **** he pulls out the tampox and says hey I think u need this more then my sister..supposedly the girl says oh and then calms down :D and hands over her number. Go figure guys ??
Originally posted by Jariel
Ross Jeffries is a good confidence tutor, but a total fraud when it comes to seduction.

Everything he teaches is theory. Like Speed Seduction, it is very logical and believable theory based on established NLP techniques, but it is not practical.

I would never advise doing anything like the tip in your post. It would not only make you look desperate and immediately place her on a pedestal, it would most likely scare the hell out of her!

I notice all these seduction masters state "You do X and she will do Y". Tip to all seduction experts: women have minds of their own. If women were this predictable, we wouldn't be reading your material. Go write a Mills and Boon novel instead.

They base all this theory around a girl's reaction and when a girl reacts differently it all falls apart.

I would suggest you pay more attention to the experiences of people on this board than the seduction "experts".
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Originally posted by englishcrap
1. Send the girl some flowers.
2. Get a White T-Shirt and print on it "It was Me Who Sent The Flowers For U"
3. When shes working on evening put your t-shirt on and stand at the bar with your T-Shirt on.
4. Apparently she will burst into laughter. Then u ask her for her number.
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Originally posted by englishcrap
there was another one where he carries a tampax around with him in his pocket. When a girl gives him **** he pulls out the tampox and says hey I think u need this more then my sister..supposedly the girl says oh and then calms down :D and hands over her number.
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Sounds to me like he's running out of ideas...
 
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RJ never had any ideas. Everything he teaches he stole from someone else and repackaged. All his NLP junk was taken from Bandler and Ericson, his first product was all taken from Kenrick Cleaveland, and his second incarnation was mostly Major Mark stuff. But once everyone realized what an unstable guy RJ was, they distanced themselves and now he has no one left to rip off.

I mean a TAMPON? WTF? What kind of guy carries around a tampon, other than a douchebag?

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Originally posted by englishcrap
Thanks Guys, I was pretty sure this book I download for free was crap..there was another one where he carries a tampax around with him in his pocket :D

When a girl gives him **** he pulls out the tampox and says hey I think u need this more then my sister..supposedly the girl says oh and then calms down :D and hands over her number. Go figure guys ??
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Give him her number? the most probable outcome of that is
a) you getting slapped
b) you getting kicked in the ballz
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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