"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Ross Jefferies - How to Pull the Girl Behind The Bar

englishcrap

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Alot of this stuff seems really freaky. I downloaded his book and he advises the following to do when u want to pull the girl who works behind the bar.

1. Send the girl some flowers.
2. Get a White T-Shirt and print on it "It was Me Who Sent The Flowers For U"
3. When shes working on evening put your t-shirt on and stand at the bar with your T-Shirt on.
4. Apparently she will burst into laughter. Then u ask her for her number.

Does this really work ? Any of you DJ's done this ?. Is it worth a try ?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Sounds like a crazy AFC attempt to me. Has this ever been field tested ?
 

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Don't believe anything you get from a Ross Jeffries product. The guy is a tool and he never gets laid. The stuff he has that actually works he stole from people much better with women than he is.

Don't bother with Speed Seduction stuff. I studied it for years and only have a lighter bank account to show for it.

Thundercat
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Jariel

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Ross Jeffries is a good confidence tutor, but a total fraud when it comes to seduction.

Everything he teaches is theory. Like Speed Seduction, it is very logical and believable theory based on established NLP techniques, but it is not practical.

I would never advise doing anything like the tip in your post. It would not only make you look desperate and immediately place her on a pedestal, it would most likely scare the hell out of her!

I notice all these seduction masters state "You do X and she will do Y". Tip to all seduction experts: women have minds of their own. If women were this predictable, we wouldn't be reading your material. Go write a Mills and Boon novel instead.

They base all this theory around a girl's reaction and when a girl reacts differently it all falls apart.

I would suggest you pay more attention to the experiences of people on this board than the seduction "experts".
 

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Thanks Guys, I was pretty sure this book I download for free was crap..there was another one where he carries a tampax around with him in his pocket :D

When a girl gives him **** he pulls out the tampox and says hey I think u need this more then my sister..supposedly the girl says oh and then calms down :D and hands over her number. Go figure guys ??
Originally posted by Jariel
Ross Jeffries is a good confidence tutor, but a total fraud when it comes to seduction.

Everything he teaches is theory. Like Speed Seduction, it is very logical and believable theory based on established NLP techniques, but it is not practical.

I would never advise doing anything like the tip in your post. It would not only make you look desperate and immediately place her on a pedestal, it would most likely scare the hell out of her!

I notice all these seduction masters state "You do X and she will do Y". Tip to all seduction experts: women have minds of their own. If women were this predictable, we wouldn't be reading your material. Go write a Mills and Boon novel instead.

They base all this theory around a girl's reaction and when a girl reacts differently it all falls apart.

I would suggest you pay more attention to the experiences of people on this board than the seduction "experts".
 

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Originally posted by englishcrap
1. Send the girl some flowers.
2. Get a White T-Shirt and print on it "It was Me Who Sent The Flowers For U"
3. When shes working on evening put your t-shirt on and stand at the bar with your T-Shirt on.
4. Apparently she will burst into laughter. Then u ask her for her number.
Originally posted by englishcrap
there was another one where he carries a tampax around with him in his pocket. When a girl gives him **** he pulls out the tampox and says hey I think u need this more then my sister..supposedly the girl says oh and then calms down :D and hands over her number.

Sounds to me like he's running out of ideas...
 

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RJ never had any ideas. Everything he teaches he stole from someone else and repackaged. All his NLP junk was taken from Bandler and Ericson, his first product was all taken from Kenrick Cleaveland, and his second incarnation was mostly Major Mark stuff. But once everyone realized what an unstable guy RJ was, they distanced themselves and now he has no one left to rip off.

I mean a TAMPON? WTF? What kind of guy carries around a tampon, other than a douchebag?

Thundercat
 

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Originally posted by englishcrap
Thanks Guys, I was pretty sure this book I download for free was crap..there was another one where he carries a tampax around with him in his pocket :D

When a girl gives him **** he pulls out the tampox and says hey I think u need this more then my sister..supposedly the girl says oh and then calms down :D and hands over her number. Go figure guys ??
Give him her number? the most probable outcome of that is
a) you getting slapped
b) you getting kicked in the ballz
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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