"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Ross Jefferies - How to Pull the Girl Behind The Bar

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Alot of this stuff seems really freaky. I downloaded his book and he advises the following to do when u want to pull the girl who works behind the bar.

1. Send the girl some flowers.
2. Get a White T-Shirt and print on it "It was Me Who Sent The Flowers For U"
3. When shes working on evening put your t-shirt on and stand at the bar with your T-Shirt on.
4. Apparently she will burst into laughter. Then u ask her for her number.

Does this really work ? Any of you DJ's done this ?. Is it worth a try ?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Sounds like a crazy AFC attempt to me. Has this ever been field tested ?
 
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Don't believe anything you get from a Ross Jeffries product. The guy is a tool and he never gets laid. The stuff he has that actually works he stole from people much better with women than he is.

Don't bother with Speed Seduction stuff. I studied it for years and only have a lighter bank account to show for it.

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Ross Jeffries is a good confidence tutor, but a total fraud when it comes to seduction.

Everything he teaches is theory. Like Speed Seduction, it is very logical and believable theory based on established NLP techniques, but it is not practical.

I would never advise doing anything like the tip in your post. It would not only make you look desperate and immediately place her on a pedestal, it would most likely scare the hell out of her!

I notice all these seduction masters state "You do X and she will do Y". Tip to all seduction experts: women have minds of their own. If women were this predictable, we wouldn't be reading your material. Go write a Mills and Boon novel instead.

They base all this theory around a girl's reaction and when a girl reacts differently it all falls apart.

I would suggest you pay more attention to the experiences of people on this board than the seduction "experts".
 
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Thanks Guys, I was pretty sure this book I download for free was crap..there was another one where he carries a tampax around with him in his pocket :D

When a girl gives him **** he pulls out the tampox and says hey I think u need this more then my sister..supposedly the girl says oh and then calms down :D and hands over her number. Go figure guys ??
Originally posted by Jariel
Ross Jeffries is a good confidence tutor, but a total fraud when it comes to seduction.

Everything he teaches is theory. Like Speed Seduction, it is very logical and believable theory based on established NLP techniques, but it is not practical.

I would never advise doing anything like the tip in your post. It would not only make you look desperate and immediately place her on a pedestal, it would most likely scare the hell out of her!

I notice all these seduction masters state "You do X and she will do Y". Tip to all seduction experts: women have minds of their own. If women were this predictable, we wouldn't be reading your material. Go write a Mills and Boon novel instead.

They base all this theory around a girl's reaction and when a girl reacts differently it all falls apart.

I would suggest you pay more attention to the experiences of people on this board than the seduction "experts".
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Originally posted by englishcrap
1. Send the girl some flowers.
2. Get a White T-Shirt and print on it "It was Me Who Sent The Flowers For U"
3. When shes working on evening put your t-shirt on and stand at the bar with your T-Shirt on.
4. Apparently she will burst into laughter. Then u ask her for her number.
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Originally posted by englishcrap
there was another one where he carries a tampax around with him in his pocket. When a girl gives him **** he pulls out the tampox and says hey I think u need this more then my sister..supposedly the girl says oh and then calms down :D and hands over her number.
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Sounds to me like he's running out of ideas...
 
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RJ never had any ideas. Everything he teaches he stole from someone else and repackaged. All his NLP junk was taken from Bandler and Ericson, his first product was all taken from Kenrick Cleaveland, and his second incarnation was mostly Major Mark stuff. But once everyone realized what an unstable guy RJ was, they distanced themselves and now he has no one left to rip off.

I mean a TAMPON? WTF? What kind of guy carries around a tampon, other than a douchebag?

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Originally posted by englishcrap
Thanks Guys, I was pretty sure this book I download for free was crap..there was another one where he carries a tampax around with him in his pocket :D

When a girl gives him **** he pulls out the tampox and says hey I think u need this more then my sister..supposedly the girl says oh and then calms down :D and hands over her number. Go figure guys ??
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Give him her number? the most probable outcome of that is
a) you getting slapped
b) you getting kicked in the ballz
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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