Romance = win/win

[tksniper]

So nature designed us to be win/win. If nature didn’t design us this way, humanity would cease to exist. But then comes social conditioning. Social conditioning wants you to believe that romance is win/indifferent, win/lose, or lose/win.

Win/indifferent is the narcissistic player. He just wants to win, he is indifferent if the woman wins or not. But eventually he’ll run into a dead end where the “wins” no longer enhances his ego, which is a bottomless pity.

Win/lose is 90% of the pickup artist society. You believe the only way you can get in is if the woman loses. So you neg her, create jealousy plot lines, use “PUA techniques”, etc.

Lose/win is the c0ckblocker. He thinks “If everyone else loses, then being a loser isn’t so bad.

REAL romance is harmony win/win. She wins because you are giving her that masculine energy she is yearning for, and you win because she’s surrendering to your masculine dominance.

Win/win with the perfect masculine/feminine synchronicity and synergy is the only way “human romance” can work.

Any other techniques or philosophies are simply mental masturbation and completely out of alignment with reality.

Try otherwise as you may, but you will constantly come back to this post. The only way you can heal your inner masculine as a man is to realize that women ALSO win when you are at your best, and not a sorry, pitiful, pathetic excuse for a human being with no masculine or feminine polarity (polarity needs to exist for attraction).

 

[Plinco]

So nature designed us to be win/win. If nature didn’t design us this way, humanity would cease to exist. But then comes social conditioning. Social conditioning wants you to believe that romance is win/indifferent, win/lose, or lose/win.

Win/indifferent is the narcissistic player. He just wants to win, he is indifferent if the woman wins or not. But eventually he’ll run into a dead end where the “wins” no longer enhances his ego, which is a bottomless pity.

Win/lose is 90% of the pickup artist society. You believe the only way you can get in is if the woman loses. So you neg her, create jealousy plot lines, use “PUA techniques”, etc.

Lose/win is the c0ckblocker. He thinks “If everyone else loses, then being a loser isn’t so bad.

REAL romance is harmony win/win. She wins because you are giving her that masculine energy she is yearning for, and you win because she’s surrendering to your masculine dominance.

Win/win with the perfect masculine/feminine synchronicity and synergy is the only way “human romance” can work.

Any other techniques or philosophies are simply mental masturbation and completely out of alignment with reality.

Try otherwise as you may, but you will constantly come back to this post. The only way you can heal your inner masculine as a man is to realize that women ALSO win when you are at your best, and not a sorry, pitiful, pathetic excuse for a human being with no masculine or feminine polarity (polarity needs to exist for existence).

The short way of saying all of this, is to act in your rational, long term self-interest.

 

[tksniper]

The short way of saying all of this, is to act in your rational, long term self-interest.

There is no short way of saying it. You cannot short cut the “ short cut.” I gave you an actual shortcut. Why are you trying to short cut my short cut lol.

 

[plumber]

how to find, recognize, and care for the win/win setup. it looks good on paper, how to follow the map ???

 

[tksniper]

how to find, recognize, and care for the win/win setup. it looks good on paper, how to follow the map ???

You guys are asking for a lot. I assumed my original post was enough, lol. I’ll do a follow up a week from now. I have to honor my role to my family and others that are important to me at the moment.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@tksniper "So nature designed us to be win/win. If nature didn’t design us this way, humanity would cease to exist"

Humanity would/ cease to exist, if we didn't/don't lose our capacity to overcome our innate inclinations: Wipe out and exterminate everything and everyone that we INITIALLY find displeasing, then mistake that for "victory"

 

[tksniper]

@tksniper "So nature designed us to be win/win. If nature didn’t design us this way, humanity would cease to exist"

Humanity would/ cease to exist, if we didn't/don't lose our capacity to overcome our innate inclinations: Wipe out and exterminate everything and everyone that we INITIALLY find displeasing, then mistake that for "victory"

Cmon bro at least be coherent. I have no idea what you are actually saying, and neither does anyone reading your post.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Cmon bro at least be coherent. I have no idea what you are actually saying, and neither does anyone reading your post.

I'm disputing the notion that "nature designed us to be win/win". The weight of the evidence suggests that we're actually hard-wired to interpret everything and everyone we find objectionable to be a menace to our existence, then wipe out it/them

 

[zekko]

Who doesn't like driving in a clean, well maintained, comfortable car?
That said, I haven't cared about high status type cars since I was a teenager - maybe early 20s.

 

[tksniper]

I'm disputing the notion that "nature designed us to be win/win". The weight of the evidence suggests that we're actually hard-wired to interpret everything and everyone we find objectionable to be a menace to our existence, then wipe out it/them

Thats “science” and all of its ego. The universe (if you’ve ever experienced real abundance) is an actual ecosystem where everything benefits everyone and vice versa. Your “tax” for being alive is “whom am I giving value to?” Ask this question everyday and you will find yourself living in abundance.

Life is an ecosystem where you are giving value to others and the value coming back to you (often times from left field) out of nowhere.

When you have experienced this synchronicity, you know you are aligned.

And I know these words resonate with you 100%, because I’ve been there. You have been there. Let’s not pretend we are powerless when it comes to creating our own reality.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Unless you're like Lady Gaga and "caught in a bad romance".

 

[tksniper]

Unless you're like Lady Gaga and "caught in a bad romance".

A lot of women are actually addicted to pain. I never said “romance is good/good.” I said romance is “win/win.” Some people “win” by feeling trauma, lol.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Thats “science” and all of its ego. The universe (if you’ve ever experienced real abundance) is an actual ecosystem where everything benefits everyone and vice versa. Your “tax” for being alive is “whom am I giving value to?” Ask this question everyday and you will find yourself living in abundance.

Life is an ecosystem where you are giving value to others and the value coming back to you (often times from left field) out of nowhere.

When you have experienced this synchronicity, you know you are aligned.

And I know these words resonate with you 100%, because I’ve been there. You have been there. Let’s not pretend we are powerless when it comes to creating our own reality.

Yeah, I'm a fervid champion of breaking free from our visceral urges, including(as you say in The OP) the urge to view life in polarized terms like "winning" and "losing". At this point, I'm also not convinced that most people have the capacity for introspection necessary to break free of those urges. This is evident even on the macro level:

From 9/11-forward, we've witnessed the ascension of not just one but THREE presidents, driven largely by the perception that they were going to "defeat The Enemy"(Jihadis, Wall Street, The migrants)once and for all

 

[BackInTheGame78]

A lot of women are actually addicted to pain. I never said “romance is good/good.” I said romance is “win/win.” Some people “win” by feeling trauma, lol.

Hmm...I wouldn't say they "win", just that they are unable to break the cycle of trading one loser for another in terms of the guys they date. Typically due to them feeling that's all they are worth.

 

[tksniper]

Hmm...I wouldn't say they "win", just that they are unable to break the cycle of trading one loser for another in terms of the guys they date. Typically due to them feeling that's all they are worth.

Breaking the cycle only requires one belief. Win/win. But that belief is often times so far beyond someone’s conditioning and mentality.

 

[Plinco]

Breaking the cycle only requires one belief. Win/win. But that belief is often times so far beyond someone’s conditioning and mentality.

People attain that emotional outlook when they have enough self-efficacy; that requires productive effort.

That's why people who sit around all day, like certain members on this forum, don't have a "win/win" mindset.

 

[tksniper]

People attain that emotional outlook when they have enough self-efficacy; that requires productive effort.

That's why people who sit around all day, like certain members on this forum, don't have a "win/win" mindset.

I was that person. I’ve been here since Pook and Anti-Dump were posting consistently. I sat around for 15 years never ever being self sufficient. And it took me 15 ego deaths just to realize that the universe gives you abundance when you are operating from “win/win”.

I’ve been here longer than all the moderators combined, have been banned multiple times and let back into the forum from Allen Thompson himself ( the site owner). Yes, the guy who wrote “confident persistence” from 20 years ago emailed me.

So for anyone reading this, I was way worse than you are now. I had the luxury of Pook himself texting me. But I never did anything with it until recently.

And that’s the good news. It’s never too late to have a win/win mentality.

 

[Plinco]

And it took me 15 ego deaths just to realize that the universe gives you abundance when you are operating from “win/win”.

I think a better way to explain that, is to say that you had to re-orient your sense of pride as you grounded yourself in reality.

 

[tksniper]

I think a better way to explain that, is to say that you had to re-orient your sense of pride as you grounded yourself in reality.

That’s a great way of putting it. I need a therapist. Do you charge? lol.

No seriously like dang, what heck? This forum is full of inspiring leaders like yourself. Keep going brother.