Roided Dudes and Fake Boobs: Appealing or a Turn Off?

[joesknows]

It seems like the most popular instagram models with millions of followers have a specific type of look: fake boobs, fake lips, fake asses, etc. Everything is exaggerated and over the top. In theory, I like a more natural look but when approached by these types of women all logic and preferences go out of the window and I can't resist.

Likewise with "action hero" type film roles, the actors are inevitably 'roided out and don't look natural at all. I don't hang out at gold's or follow the dating lives of actors or bodybuilders, but do women actually prefer this type of physique? There are those porn vids of bachelorette style parties where 'roided guys are servicing multiple women, but the women are almost always milfs and cougars, which suggests this type of physique does not appeal to the youngest and hottest women.

Are women actually attracted to the unnatural 'roided look or are they a turnoff to the youngest hottest women?

 

[Kotaix]

Pretty sure most women would rather be with a roided out dude than Ron Jeremy. And also, porn caters overwhelmingly to men, so don't read into it.

I don't mind women with fake tits, but only for hedonistic reasons (banging and looking at). When it comes to relationships, those huge fake tits are big red flags.

 

[jaymbrs]

They share something in common: they're both superficial and have an understanding of how it works ergo they accept that about each other. Someone who doesn't live that lifestyle won't attract that type of person. I lift quite a bit but don't take roids and am not attracted to unnatural looking women and they're more than likely not attracted to me.

 

[MatureDJ]

Except for the case of something like breast cancer or accident disfigurement, fake teats are a big turnoff. That said, I am glad that so many women get this, as a lot of men do like it, and thus they are taken out of the mating pool (OK, this presumes monogamy, but the point is still valid).

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Pretty sure most women would rather be with a roided out dude than Ron Jeremy. And also, porn caters overwhelmingly to men, so don't read into it.

I don't mind women with fake tits, but only for hedonistic reasons (banging and looking at). When it comes to relationships, those huge fake tits are big red flags.

Porn... Someone figured out they could get paid millions to have sex with hookers on film.

 

[Serenity]

I can't imagine how bad the insecurity and lack of self-esteem must be to subject oneself to such destructive practices. It's a complete turn off for me, I pity them and it's impossible for me to feel any attraction towards women I pity.

 

[metalwater]

Dudes on steroids are doing it purely for women - it's very gynocentric. Getting jacked on roids is the equivalent of getting "I love women and I love gynocracy" written on your forehead (and women know it too).

Is that the same as most other things being done to increase perceived SMV?

we could argue about each individual thing or action and find other benefits. In the end, it's about the red queen.

for roids, when competing in physical competition if the norm in the group is to do this it is not possible to compete without it. maybe some special male can, but generally no. in that case it's not to get women it is to compete for some sport. the getting women are buried very deep into that one and the person doing it has no idea it is ultimately tied to mating as is everything else.

isn't tats in the same idea. yes, we have few social groups that use tats as id or unity, but generally, tats are about trying to increase SMV, and don't the women know that also?

What's the difference?

 

[metalwater]

Roids are cartoonish and bad for your health. It's the equivalent of a woman injecting liquid cement into her ass.

You want to look high SMV without looking like you're trying too hard.

disagree. roids are a powerful med that has predictable effects and can be very good for some men if they need them. why do you say it is bad for your health. like anything, it can be abused or ignorantly used. not all roids are like that. naralt...

 

[metalwater]

They are all bad. That's why even having minute traces in you gets you banned from professional sports. That's how much they effect your body - it is a wonder drug (that's why they are banned in sports), but it comes at a cost to your internal health (heart, emotions, natural ability to produce testosterone).

Anything that messes with your endocrine system and jacks your T levels up to hundreds of times their natural level is not good for you. This is well understood in the medical community. Steroids are a trade off - you get to impress women, at the cost of your health.

You can get more women with Game, and it's much better for your health too.

wrong again. if your endocrine is already screwd, it can and does fix that. imagine being very low T so that your dck does not work right and you are passive like a proper woman, but your a man. you get trampled over and over by women and men and you don't fcking know why the world works like that. without T, you just want to cry and ask for help... but who will help... well welcome to red pill, only you will help you.

Basically ran myself into the ground trying to fix it, collapsed more than once trying to do the natural way of lifting and running. I could not get there. Now I can hang with anyone and usually at the front.

anyway, mesterolone was initially invented in Germany a very long time ago for androgen deficiency. definitely a roid and used often in bodybuilding due to some of the good effects. very safe, no liver issues, works different than test, and does not interfere with test. Some side effects are a better body, faster, stronger, less fat. The only real requirement is to keep good cardio.

I know you would not know my background detail, but sometimes more to a story.

Not much value in getting women with game if the dck doesn't work...

 

[B80]

If you take lowish doses or roids, get bloods done regularly, cycle on/off, use PCT, know what you're doing, eat healthy diet, exercise etc the long term effects are debatable. are they any worse than drinking, smoking, breathing in heavilly polluted air in cities for years?

obviously you get idiots that take high amounts for years and abuse their bodies in other ways. but I don;t think its a black/white - they're bad, full stop.

as mentioned above, probably seriously improve some peoples quality of life: feeling low, no energy, no sex drive etc. so the potential risks are worth it to some, rather than leading a life of flatness/misery for decades.

i get my bloods done regularly and if test starts to drop as I progress into my mid 40's and beyond, I'll certainly consider TRT. low test has big effect on vitality, mood and quality of life. I'd only consider this route as I my diet and exercise is on point, so I know I'm doing everything in my power to naturally keep it at decent levels. If you were fat with bad habits, they should be addressed first, rather than sticking a needle in your bum to make up for your laziness.

as for fake boobs, not my thing at all, in fact I skip past majority of porn videos where women have fake boobs, regardless of their face. not my thing at all.

 

[B80]

I think that taking TRT in your 40's is a great idea. What have you go to lose at that point?

I'm talking about dudes in their 20's and 30's.

There's 2 issues. There's the health issue, and there's the simping issue. You're ruining your health to simp for women on a very basic level. Big muscles certainly help, but for today's modern woman it's not enough without Game. She's not just going to hop on your c0ck because you've got big muscles, so it's hardly worth it. Jacked dudes are very abundant now. It's pretty much entry level these days to be well-built so it doesn't impress women much anymore. In fact, I've noticed it's become an expectation.

Taking roids also means that you don't have good inner-Game and you feel the need to risk your health to simp for women. Your inner-Game mindset gets ruined by making this type of lifestyle choice.

agree with that mate. I think it becomes a crux for too many. Like getting a nice car, big muscles, money etc. If you're insecure or have poor social skills you'll get laughed off when that's quickly exposed. Although attraction is there on a physical level, confidence and social skills need to be at a half decent level to correlate with your physical appearance, otherwise they won;t 'feel it' and move on. Or you'll end up in relationships with low quality women. That said it will open more doors compared to if you were a 'simp' with no money, physique etc.

I think its men seeing things from our point of view, not womens - which I think is an issue many men have due to conditioning/society and no exposure to 'red pill/manosphere' stuff'. working on too many external factors, with a weak core.

 

[metalwater]

weak core.

what is this? weak core? and how to fix it?

 

[Bingo-Player]

Ended up Banging a chick with fake everything a few months ago , despite her being the type of girl a lot of guys would likely cut their arms off to bang I didn't sexually connect with her very well , it was quite weird

100% prefer natural t1ts , don't like fake lips ,a$$ filler etc

Girls with a bit of depth to them are always far more attractive to me than bimbos

Same with guys a lot of jacked guys i chat to in the gym they are very one dimensional

 

[Who Dares Win]

The fake lips problem is getting epidemic...never seen once a girl in my life that I believed would look "hotter" with bigger lips yet many of them reach a point in their early to mid 30s and go for it.

 

[joesknows]

The fake lips problem is getting epidemic...never seen once a girl in my life that I believed would look "hotter" with bigger lips yet many of them reach a point in their early to mid 30s and go for it.

That's true. Rarely do you see women in their 20's go for lip injections. They can rely on their natural beauty.

 

[SW15]

There's 2 issues. There's the health issue, and there's the simping issue. You're ruining your health to simp for women on a very basic level. Big muscles certainly help, but for today's modern woman it's not enough without Game. She's not just going to hop on your c0ck because you've got big muscles, so it's hardly worth it. Jacked dudes are very abundant now. It's pretty much entry level these days to be well-built so it doesn't impress women much anymore. In fact, I've noticed it's become an expectation.

It's not worth taking steroids. I believe in weight lifting and men interested in cold approaching and seducing are well served by doing this. Big muscles help but steroids have more downsides than upsides with game. If you can get a fit look, that will be good. You will need some charisma. You'll need more charisma with smaller muscles.

You can get a fit looking playing many sports in conjunction with lifting weights.

 

[Plinco]

Dude, no one enjoys working out and watching their diet. It's a pain/gain thing. No one does it for fun. But it can be justified.

But if a guy is taking Roids on top of that then it makes absolutely no sense unless you're trying to impress other people (women, or men if you're gay). And he's sacrificing his own health to impress other people which is extra-simpish.

Working out naturally to impress women is ok. I'd still advocate doing it for mental health - healthy body/healthy mind. But taking Roids can't be justified as anything other than trying to impress women.

It would be like a Brazilian twerker with butt injections telling you that she just got them to look cool, and she doesn't care about men. You'd roll your eyes I'd hope.

Yes and no.

Probably in most cases men take roids for the reasons you mentioned, and if he looks unnatural then yes the underlining reason is what you say. Then again there are TRT and athletes which are different stories.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Women prefer roided men to skinny men, but prefer natural athletic looking to both.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Depends on the person

 

[darksprezzatura]

I like women who take care of themselves and are actively trying to improve their fitness, hobbies and financial stability.

People can be insecure and have made poor decisions in the past.

I don't judge as long as folks are trying to grow.