Okay to be a good challenge, do never contact her and hope she always does? Or do you just contact her every once in awhile. A lot of guys I know that are pimps say you got to do a lot of work though(like calling her up and hanging out a lot. So how should u do it.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Right way to be a challenge
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Once by mistake I got this super hot virgin girl because she thought I was challenging.
My friend liked her so we always went to Starbucks as a group (she had her fine blond friends)
I did not try to hollar or give the slightest hint that I am interested so my friend can try to win her over. SHe is an HB8, a lot of guys where trying to get with her.
Magically she hooked up with me after we talked every week for a month over their. She broke up with her BF and she was always interested in my stories, and I had exciting real stories.
I don't even know what I did or how she found me challeging, but I took her virginity
When I had deep conversations with her, she told me that I was harder to get. ect. A lot of this stuff works because she was refering to stuff I did naturally and I noticed it on this site also.
Also I am an ugly mother ****er
My friend liked her so we always went to Starbucks as a group (she had her fine blond friends)
I did not try to hollar or give the slightest hint that I am interested so my friend can try to win her over. SHe is an HB8, a lot of guys where trying to get with her.
Magically she hooked up with me after we talked every week for a month over their. She broke up with her BF and she was always interested in my stories, and I had exciting real stories.
I don't even know what I did or how she found me challeging, but I took her virginity
When I had deep conversations with her, she told me that I was harder to get. ect. A lot of this stuff works because she was refering to stuff I did naturally and I noticed it on this site also.
Also I am an ugly mother ****er
JackPrescott
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This is a tough one. Some women really respond to being "ignored" Others will move on to men paying them attention. I guess the key is moderation. If you like a woman a lot, and want to ask her out, hook up, ect, a call once a week is good. But the bottom line fact, is if she has your number, and doesnt use it, she isnt that interested.
Leah
Don Juan
If a man doesn't contact me I start chasing. As long as he responds favourably to my contacts I'll keep it up. As soon as I get the feeling he doesn't like me I stop. It's always good to contact her maybe once for every 3 or 4 times she contacts you. Unkless she's a psycho freak and calls you every ten minutes of course in which case change your number.
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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
abcd_z
Senior Don Juan
Who says there's a right way?
I spent a lot of time trying to figure out the "right way" to handle things with the opposite sex. And you know what? I still can't figure it out. Just when I think I've nailed down what works and what doesn't, I see somebody who acts opposite what I thought worked, and that works too. Or I see somebody who should have, by all rights, succeeded, get shot out of the air. I wish I could tell you something like "wait X days, then call her up, use Y routine, and NEXT her if she doesn't respond", but I don't think it really works like that. Still, here's some GENERAL advice.
Work on turning yourself into the sort of person who's always doing something fun. Spend time at fun outings, parties, whatever, building your socializing skills. Don't drop whatever you're doing just to spend time with her, and make sure she knows it. Don't worry so much about this one girl. Learn to flirt with other girls. Try one of the newbie missions here or in the fastseduction.com archives. That way, even if things fall through with her, you've still got other options. Beyond that, you're on your own. Good luck, we're all pulling for 'ya.
I spent a lot of time trying to figure out the "right way" to handle things with the opposite sex. And you know what? I still can't figure it out. Just when I think I've nailed down what works and what doesn't, I see somebody who acts opposite what I thought worked, and that works too. Or I see somebody who should have, by all rights, succeeded, get shot out of the air. I wish I could tell you something like "wait X days, then call her up, use Y routine, and NEXT her if she doesn't respond", but I don't think it really works like that. Still, here's some GENERAL advice.
Work on turning yourself into the sort of person who's always doing something fun. Spend time at fun outings, parties, whatever, building your socializing skills. Don't drop whatever you're doing just to spend time with her, and make sure she knows it. Don't worry so much about this one girl. Learn to flirt with other girls. Try one of the newbie missions here or in the fastseduction.com archives. That way, even if things fall through with her, you've still got other options. Beyond that, you're on your own. Good luck, we're all pulling for 'ya.
Shiftkey
Master Don Juan
You should take the lead with contacting her, setting the dates, making the moves, etc. The idea is to make things happen on your terms. Your schedule should already be busy with your hobbies, job, school, friends, other girls, etc. You shouldn't have the TIME to see her or talk to her every day - and she should know this. She should feel like she's competing for your time, and she should be happy when you offer to fit her in your busy life.