Remote worker nerds

[I_have_BDE]

Something I've noticed with many "young professionals" and also the remote workers is many of them don't come off at very masculine. Yet they're the type of workers who are white collar and making the most money. Many of them look beta too. Are many of these 100k and up earners just using their money to attract women instead of their personalities and other attributes? Basically have to beta bucks?

 

[I_have_BDE]

I feel I can answer this for you very well. I have lived in very expensive communities and have witnessed the "type" that you are referring to. The way they act and dress fits in with there environment. They dress more expensive because thats how others in there community dress. If you dont act or dress like them then you will be an outcast. Its similiar to how you would be an outcast if you didnt dress like a gang member if you were in a gang. Its just an outfit that you wear to fit in. As far as them using the money to get women, I think they are just normal guys. There personalities seem normal to me. Ive noticed many white collar workers that make around 100k go to gyms. Blue collar workers usually dont because there jobs are physical so they dont need the gym. I dont think they are using there money to necessarily get women but it probably helps them a tiny bit if the girl knows he makes 100k or up.

From what ive also read on here most white collar jobs are betas.

Seems on here a lot of guys are more blue collar or mid range white collar. You'd think this forum would have more beta white collar on here but then again we don't know how they act irl.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I am a white-collar remote worker and there are beta males are in every industry regardless of location. It sounds like you are low key jealous of remote workers. Do not go and make stupid accusations towards an industry when you probably watch some redpill Youtube or podcast host doing literally the same thing.

 

[Murk]

They are mostly remote now because of how the world is moving, but these guys were always nerds. Of course, there are always outliers, mixing book smarts with street smarts and having the confidence to back it up.

It's mostly the nature of the job, IT, looking at a screen all day, little interaction, no confidence needed unless you're managing a team/project.

Equally, there are many remote-working sales/pre-sales/business development guys that are more confident and outgoing than average men.

I will say that - the last 3 years working fully remote has definitely impacted my social skills/confidence - but they were both key strengths of mine so I guess I'm now a 7.5/8 rather than a 9.5. I go out less, meet less people, and I'm happy with that. I had too many wasted nights in my 20s to early 30s to last me a life time.

I had an MS teams meeting yesterday with an IT consultancy owner and integration lead, he looked like gollum, bags under his eyes, greasy hair with a creased-up t-shirt in the corner with a headset on, it honestly looked like he had just done 20 hours on warcraft. There's me in a fresh pressed suit and shirt and good lighting. Swings and roundabouts.

 

[CornbreadFed]

As a former Industrial Engineer that has worked in factory/manufacturing settings, y'all are coping hard. Your typical laborer is a pvssy beggar locked up by some bvtchy post wall hitting wife by age 20 and looks more like this:

or this

 

[CornbreadFed]

I'm an industrial engineer too, and 90% of the engineers look like those ones, but without the wife or gf part.

I'd rather be a nerdy engineer in a comfortable office setting than a fat line worker living off of Twice Daily sausage biscuits and coming home to a post wall hitting wife. The engineer can always hit the gym and better himself.

 

[corrector]

So women are not on the lookout for industrial engineers. Did you expect them to?

Brilliant contribution as usual.

 

[CornbreadFed]

The Line worker can also hit the gym, better himself, clim the ladder as supervisor, then manager, then Sr. Manager, then Director, which is not hard to do. And by that + Gym, increasing his SMV, then replacing that woman.

If it is so much easier and better, why not quit your cozy engineering job and become a tech or line worker? It just irritates me that the only guys praising these jobs tend to be white collar guys sitting in comfortable leather chairs.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Cozy engineering job? I'm not sitting at my desk working on spreadsheets, or SQLs, or creating Tableau metrics like you. My degree is IE, but I'm far from it.

I design, fabricate, install, do maintenance, train, supervise and lead. Let this be the last time you think we are the same

You know what they call Industrial Engineers (IE) in the industry? Imaginary Engineers, cause all they do it numbers, metrics, and budgets not aligned with reality.

Still, if you kept the same pay right now, would you rather do your job or on the line as a general laborer?

 

[Bokanovsky]

Something I've noticed with many "young professionals" and also the remote workers is many of them don't come off at very masculine. Yet they're the type of workers who are white collar and making the most money. Many of them look beta too. Are many of these 100k and up earners just using their money to attract women instead of their personalities and other attributes? Basically have to beta bucks?

The same is largely true of service industry and blue collar workers (except they have less money).

 

[CornbreadFed]

If I didn't know design in 3D, I would do what the mechanics do.

Its also funny cause mechs get paid overtime x1.5 or x2, they don't have a loan from engineering school, just a 1 or 2 year school, and then at the end of the year with all the overtime they earn more than engineers, also they have unions that protect them.

That was another red pill for me

I understand exactly what you mean, but I would still prefer to be the engineer in the long run. I did want to make more money and that's why I chose to switch into sales. I like the atmosphere better, but I do miss the stability.

 

[The Duke]

IE's....we always called those imaginary engineers!

I worked for large corporate engineering companies for 20yrs. The majority of the guys were beta males. Didn't go out much. Didn't date much. If they did find a girl, they stuck with her.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Used to work in a machine shop where we had engineers doing all sorts of different stuff, obviously not a remote job. Also worked with engineers in relation to servicing gas mains and other things like this, also not remote.

Ive never met an overweight engineer, every single one of them are skinny as a toothpick, most with obnoxious attitudes although that could just be the work place culture.

 

[I_have_BDE]

I'd rather be a nerdy engineer in a comfortable office setting than a fat line worker living off of Twice Daily sausage biscuits and coming home to a post wall hitting wife. The engineer can always hit the gym and better himself.

The Line worker can also hit the gym, better himself, clim the ladder as supervisor, then manager, then Sr. Manager, then Director, which is not hard to do. And by that + Gym, increasing his SMV, then replacing that woman.

But by contrast, you're nerd and always will be, got no social skills, no thick skin which is needed to survive and if I make a joke about your race you'll be going to HR crying like a little female b1tch. I know cause I'm surrounded by all you.

A lot of office guys, bean counters are just totally out of touch with the actual job. I would think a factory line would be more manly. My dad had white collar job in the 80s, up to very early 90s. Head of pattern design at a major shoe company. All the factories were in the south like Missouri Bootheel, Southern Missouri, Arkansas, Northern MS, Tennessee and such. Especially the factory down around Hayti, Caruthersville Missouri, and northern MS would make any modern HR woman probably break down in tears and freak out with how they talk. They had to be reminded about saying racist jokes and language down there since even in the 80s it was still common in those rural areas of MS and the Bootheel.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Are many of these 100k and up earners just using their money to attract women instead of their personalities and other attributes? Basically have to beta bucks?

Why are you curious about this bunch?

Many unassuming men and normies simply have women because they went about their lives and met women while doing so, and many or some of those guys you mentioned might have done that. No game required. And low six figures is a nothing-burger in big cities these days; so I assume women in those cities, if hung up on money would like to see 200k-plus.

I’ve noticed a tendency in all-male spaces online for men to wonder or assume why male strangers have women or what are their situations.

They’ll see or speak of strangers like this, trying to deconstruct cases they know nothing about.

“Look at that normie with that hot piece of a__. You know she’s cheating on him.”

“Look at that nerd. You know she’s with him for money.”

“Look at that fat hubby. You know she hates screwing him. They probably never do it.”

And so on and so on.

 

[RazorRambo24]

No offense to you OP but this is very immature thinking. Whilw I grew up unlike alot of those dudes, Projecting "beta" on other dudes is not it. Id think ud be surprised to find out some of these dudes are prob doing better than you not only wirh women but in every facet of life. Its called having discipline to focus on things that take them further than the average person.

You are basically just assuming sht about dudes you dont know...perhaps out of envy that they make more money than you and thats pretty weak.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Something I've noticed with many "young professionals" and also the remote workers is many of them don't come off at very masculine. Yet they're the type of workers who are white collar and making the most money. Many of them look beta too. Are many of these 100k and up earners just using their money to attract women instead of their personalities and other attributes? Basically have to beta bucks?

The average 22 year old today has T levels that are lower than the average 67 year old from the 1960s had. Let that sink in for a minute.

There is a reason feminization of the world is happening and it lies in the destruction of the male endocrine system that's been happening since the 1950s and picking up speed ever since.

Within the next 30 years, it will become normal for 18 year olds to be prescribed testosterone since their bodies are not producing enough on their own.