"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Relationships expose your inner demons

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Relationships can bring out inner game issues that you didnt even know you had. Whatever trauma you have under the surface comes out. People that are normal in every other aspect of life become psychos once they get romantically involved.

You become hypersensitive to behaviors of the other party. This is especially true if you really like the other person.

Many men and women cant handle this ( including me). This creates a cycle of toxicity and dysfunction.

Because of this, relationships do serve as a catalyst for growth after you break up.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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The subject had me rolling my eyes, but the content is great! Thanks, OP!
 

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So true. This is one aspect that I'm not Nostalgic about.
 

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I had one relationship that got too toxic and dysfunctional. We were having an argument and I shoved her and she fell down. Never done anything like that to anybody. She had pushed me to my breaking point. I think it's in even the most sane person. I knew right then that I was done and needed to end that relationship immediately.
 
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I had one relationship that got too toxic and dysfunctional. We were having an argument and I shoved her and she fell down. Never done anything like that to anybody. She had pushed me to my breaking point. I think it's in even the most sane person. I knew right then that I was done and needed to end that relationship immediately.
What you call breaking point is regular stress relief in a Russian marriage. Pushing is just the foreplay.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Attachment issues in early age results in so-called "asocial behavior" (fine wording violence) in men and emotional instability in women. This is reflected in society, men are over represented in jail and women among the disorder "emotional instability" in the psychiatry. A shrink told me this.

Women can with their way of being and emotion stability drive men crazy, it seems is my experience. A Swedish politician lost his career for airing this thought. For everyone's sake, including our own so we don't get the blame here, we need to be able to ignore, walk or next. Temporarily and if needed also permanently.
 

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Relationships can bring out inner game issues that you didnt even know you had. Whatever trauma you have under the surface comes out. People that are normal in every other aspect of life become psychos once they get romantically involved.
Absolutely, when someone gets under your skin things gets activated that could have been dormant, have heard plenty of anecdotes of that. I got angry at a girlfriend that was unfaithful, also later on jealous on a previous lover's new life. These days I am very confident that I've become a respectable man with good relationship skills. Have put in the work and pain for reaching that.
 
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Relationships can bring out inner game issues that you didnt even know you had. Whatever trauma you have under the surface comes out. People that are normal in every other aspect of life become psychos once they get romantically involved.

You become hypersensitive to behaviors of the other party. This is especially true if you really like the other person.

Many men and women cant handle this ( including me). This creates a cycle of toxicity and dysfunction.

Because of this, relationships do serve as a catalyst for growth after you break up.
I once had a relationship and I discovered that I had a lot of inner game issues: a half-finished game of backgammon and a game of chess were both simultaneously going on inside my head. Fortunately I managed to resolve the issue by taking lots and lots of pills.
 

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I'm my experience relationships are lessons you learn from, applying the knowledge to the next one, starting with a better frame each time and putting up with less BS. I'm at a pretty good level now after a few go-arounds. You can't read or watch vids on this stuff, you have to live it, and go through experiences.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Yeah definitely true...in some ways they expose things about a person that nothing else can. And usually only the bad things.
 

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Attachment issues in early age results in so-called "asocial behavior" (fine wording violence) in men and emotional instability in women. This is reflected in society, men are over represented in jail and women among the disorder "emotional instability" in the psychiatry. A shrink told me this.

Women can with their way of being and emotion stability drive men crazy, it seems is my experience. A Swedish politician lost his career for airing this thought. For everyone's sake, including our own so we don't get the blame here, we need to be able to ignore, walk or next. Temporarily and if needed also permanently.
And it makes sense. This is a game where at the end all characters will be able to compete with each other. So a 5.3 skinny fragile woman will be able to MENTALLY compete with a 6.5 baboon. Kinda like xmen, or streetfighter or whatever analogy you like to use.

Or perhaps the analogy of the infamous African honey badger, who will fight a lion to death and wont back down no matter what. Even the lion starts to doubt himself ,"why does this small creature DOESN'T back down, I can crush you with my index finger!"
I had one relationship that got too toxic and dysfunctional. We were having an argument and I shoved her and she fell down. Never done anything like that to anybody. She had pushed me to my breaking point. I think it's in even the most sane person. I knew right then that I was done and needed to end that relationship immediately.
Same thing here . Pushed my girl, she fell on her elbow and shoved it into my face fir YEARS . The push was more a reflex, but looking back at it the whole lead up to this was "my mistake".

It's like being a boxing fan, cheering from the couch is easy. You might even have some tactical knowledge. Yet everything changes the moment you gotta step inside the ring yourself. You'll discover thing about yourself you never knew...

That's why lately I tend to be more positive about many of my failed relationships. Without them I would miss TONS of knowledge, especially knowledge about myself.
 

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Same with Serbians. My mate had this girl he was dating try and stab when she found out about other girls. They hadn't even had the talk. I ve had Greek and Serbian chix ditch me because I wasn't moody enough. I think one of them actually wanted to be slapped around. Damaged goods.
 

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There’s a reason we gimped the MLRS systems we sent the Ukraine…
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Very insightful post OP.

My relationship is going that direction currently and it’s driving me insane because I can’t figure out how to fix it. Moving in together made everything worse.

She’s very cute, caring, low notch count, family-oriented. But also very insecure, needing physical and emotional affirmation, demanding attention and talks a lot (almost all the time) about stuff I really don’t care about. It’s often the same stuff because she doesn’t go out much and thus can’t talk about new experiences.
Plus she doesn’t have a fixed group of girl friends to dump the figments in her brain to. To make matters worse she’s one of my good friends’ younger sister.

This situation is draining me emotionally and physically. I feel ungrounded as a man and she can feel it too, which is making everything worse. Any advice here?
 

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I had one relationship that got too toxic and dysfunctional. We were having an argument and I shoved her and she fell down. Never done anything like that to anybody. She had pushed me to my breaking point. I think it's in even the most sane person. I knew right then that I was done and needed to end that relationship immediately.
Your story is a perfect example. They will bring things out of you that you didnt know you had. On a positive note this gives you an opportunity to do some internal healing of your wounds. They bring them to the surface.

Btw was this female BPD or just a high conflict personality?
 

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Attachment issues in early age results in so-called "asocial behavior" (fine wording violence) in men and emotional instability in women. This is reflected in society, men are over represented in jail and women among the disorder "emotional instability" in the psychiatry. A shrink told me this.

Women can with their way of being and emotion stability drive men crazy, it seems is my experience. A Swedish politician lost his career for airing this thought. For everyone's sake, including our own so we don't get the blame here, we need to be able to ignore, walk or next. Temporarily and if needed also permanently.
This is so true. Childhood traumas lead to adult issues. If you date enough attractive women you WILL run into a BPD cluster B type. If you are not ready to ignore, walk or next you are done.
 

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Very insightful post OP.

My relationship is going that direction currently and it’s driving me insane because I can’t figure out how to fix it. Moving in together made everything worse.

She’s very cute, caring, low notch count, family-oriented. But also very insecure, needing physical and emotional affirmation, demanding attention and talks a lot (almost all the time) about stuff I really don’t care about. It’s often the same stuff because she doesn’t go out much and thus can’t talk about new experiences.
Plus she doesn’t have a fixed group of girl friends to dump the figments in her brain to. To make matters worse she’s one of my good friends’ younger sister.

This situation is draining me emotionally and physically. I feel ungrounded as a man and she can feel it too, which is making everything worse. Any advice here?
Well she does not sound like a Cluster B whack job so thats good. If the relationship is draining you then it ultimately going to make you very depressed. The pain will be so much that you will have to make a choice. You either leave or slowly die. Hopefully she breaks up with you and that will make your exit more smooth.
 

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Your story is a perfect example. They will bring things out of you that you didnt know you had. On a positive note this gives you an opportunity to do some internal healing of your wounds. They bring them to the surface.

Btw was this female BPD or just a high conflict personality?
Highly likely Borderline Personality Disorder.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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