Relapse Discussion

[Cloud-uk]

This post has been created in regards to several posts expressing regret and dissapointment that people have relapsed, not necessarily into their old AFC ways, but into a state of topor, where they're not getting as much as they should do, and not enjoying life as much as they should do.

Sadly, this isn't the post that will make it all alright, I've also arsed up somewhere along the line. Hey, you think you know your ****, you go off all proud, and you act like a **** and don't get any. The trick is to stop it and try again.

I know I need to sort myself out, and I know Ares needs to too. Johnny Football hero, I'm sure you said something about veering from the perfect mack, so there must be a couple of you guys out there.

I propose a sort of boot camp type system, give it a couple of weeks, and we should all be a lot happier. I don't know what is ruining for you guys, but for me it's the girls. I've got the greatest mates and my work is ****ing excelent at the moment, and hopefully I'll pass my driving test, but for me it's the girls.

So, first up is to shout out and say you want to sort this out. I know you all know your theory anyway, so this won't be suitable for guys just starting. I want a close-knit group of guys who want to get back on track, and we are all going to sort this out. No one is going to drop by the wayside.

So, first up, who's in?

 

[jonny football hero]

Hey a namecheck!

Yeah i'm in.

 

[JSH]

Go on, im in. Iv relapsed in terms of my work, its a good standard, but not on time and I do not feel that i have put enough energy/preparation into it anymore. ie: its always done at break time. Then i stay up late to get other things done, screwing with my sleep schedule. Thirdly: i need to keep my gym trips regular, i do enough sports anyway but i need the relaxed cardio practice.

Oh yeah and I have not bothered taking driving lessons for months now, my parents will even pay, i just have to organise them. Although on the plus point, i passed my theory test with full marks.

 

[Mr. Debonaire]

yes lads, im in for sure

i don't need to tell you all my own situation, because im in exactly the same boat as the rest of you. started out on this site, seemed to learn quickly, was good at picking up the ladies. then at some point it all seemed to disintegrate.

im glad your stepping up to the plate on this one, cloud_uk. i didn't even want to admit to myself for the longest time that this was the case, but once i read the post i knew it was true

 

[Cloud-uk]

Excellent. I am so up for this it's not true. Today I got my first taste of how much fun it is to be bak to how I should be.

Right, Tom, JSH, Mr. Debonaire (damn- this is like the England Cell of sosuave) I think the first point of call is to set out some specific goals. It doesn't matter when you reach them, because you will and everyone is going to help each other do it.

The great news is that i don't think this will take long at all. You guys know what you should be doing, so the problem isn't in your mindset. Sure, we'll get some brief "this is where I want to be" guidelines set up, but it is so much more about getting out there and doing it. And being proud you did.

And honesty. You lie to yourself you end up where you are now. The only way to play through this is to be honest about your faults so that you can sort them out.

So, first thing to do is write down explicit goals to reach, as many or as few as you like. Mine are:


1) Put one 1 stone (making me 10 stone heavy)
2) **** a hot girl (something I havent done in a while)
3) Get driving
4) Keep the work up to scratch


If you've just found this post and want to join up, please just introduce yourself and fill out your goals. As I've said, this is an all or nothing thing. I'm not going to update every week or anything, but when everyone who is in has given their goals. That means everyone. We'll all be waiting for you, everyone is going to sort themselves out.

I'll chuck some ideas in after everyone has decided what they want to get out of this. I don't mean to be carrying this thing though, I need help too. If you've got some ideas for the crowd to get back on track, be that for the group of for one individual, please give it.

Infact I need it now. My best mate says I'm very outspoken, that's why I'm such a laugh, but I do tend to be very confrontational. Perhaps to the level where it is unattractive. I admitt to saying things to people, especially girls, just for teh reaction. This, I'm sure, has made me look like a bit of a git. Which would be fine but I don't have the sex to back it up. Should I tone it down for the sake of my mack, or do you think it might ebb away if I generally get more comfortable and happy? A change for myself/other people dilemma I guess...

Anyway, you might want to keep a blog too, I found it helps, and I know JSH has about 4 . Will help us all help you, and help you help others! Damn i love this hippie ****!

-Alex

 

[jonny football hero]

Aight........

Here we go (english) boys!!

• Shag this lass, lets call her "dazzle", because she's so into me it's not funny
• Put my arse in gear with homework. Especailly history.

also, because the list ignored it for some reason, bulk to 10 stone.

Maybe get pissed downtown, who knows?

 

[JSH]

Finally get into a proper LTR with one of Five girls who are into me: Blonde1, Blonde2, Blonde2s m8, Brunette1, Black1

Do all my work in a calm, measured fashion, no longer rushed, but prepared, planned and written at home.

Up my level of cardio fitness. Along with upping it, mayb drop down to 13 stone in weight.

Tone down my level of outspokeness until i am not too disrespectful.

 

[AlexTheGreat]

alright, I'm alex (no really lol)

hmmm what I'd like to do is ....

• Get with this girl I'm interested in ...
• become more outgoing / funny with everyone, not just a few crews I hang out with
• build up, get more shape
• start working to get good grades once again ....

that about covers it ...

 

[Mr. Debonaire]

lol actually im an irish (in Canada), so we'll call this the UK plus commonwealth Club

pretty simple goals
- Pull up the damn grades
- shag this lady that is interested in me, then get with
blondie1, brunettes 1 2 or 3.
- better shape (not bad now but could be better)

also i don't know where this idea originally came from but i think its a great one and thats to all of us keep a journal (weekly?) for ourselves and for each other.

 

[Cloud-uk]

Great- everyone seems to want pretty much the same things. Girls, good grades, a better physique, and to better their social life, be this through expanding their reputation or sorting out certain aspects of their personality.

I think the first point of call should be the girls. I think I'm right in saying we all know a whole bunch of girls, but if I may make a suggestion, I don't think starting off by saying "I want to get with girl x" is the way to go. Sure, you may have put in some effort with her, and are getting good signals, but I wouldn't focus your efforts onto a group you already know.

I'm not saying just drop it! I'm just saying use this as an opportunity to get to know more girls and guys, not risk flogging a dead horse.

So, what I did earlier this week was straight out ask the girl I fancied out. She said no- had gotten a boyfriend, and that was the first rejection I'd got in a while. I'd drifted into the friends zone- I deserved it. It helped a lot though, so:

Task: Ask some girl out, not out down the pub, but out out. Preferably someone you think will say no. A rejection will reawaken something inside you.

Task: Cold pick-ups. Ask as many random girls as you want out. We really need to get back into the swing of things, and this is a great way to do it. I know you all already know this, but the biggest thing to remember is "ENGAGE MAVERICK, ENGAGE!". You see it, you do it.

This is what I feel would benefit everyone the most, but you should all be thinking about, if not sorting out work out schemes, and making an effort with the work.

Anyway, as you can see i'm pretty keen on getting things done quickly- I don't want to be stuck in a ****ty state any longer than is physically necessary. i hope you feel the same way. The quicker you do the above, and post back with your results, the quicker we can all get on to the next step. Keep up the drive!

And yeah, the journal is a great idea, just post in it whenever you feel like it.

Again, if you are finding anything difficult, like the tasks above, you have to come out and say it. Everyone should accomplish what they want. Everyone. And if you have any ideas about things to get out and do, or think about, give it.

Oh yeah- final point, everyone needs to have a printed out hard copy of the Don Juan Bible. Read the first post by pook in it again. It's that masculine view point, the chisleing away of your weaknesses through failure and effort that we need to get going (again). And I like the name "Commonwealth Club" .

Alright with everyone?

-Alex

 

[jonny football hero]

Daym, this is turning into a [hard man's] famous five.

I am so up for this, although getting rejected for someone like me will be hard.......

I'll talk to more lasses, but i'm still intent on shagging "dazzle" and possibly her mate "razzle". First point of call on her is kino, man have i been neglecting that. I'm heading straight for friendship zone with her if i'm not careful......

On the grades front, my History and Business studies need some attention. I've got the knowledge, but have trouble communicating it to the examiner......thats getting fixed.....

Where should we start these journals? here?

THE MACK IS BACK

-Tom

 

[JSH]

Well, too late, i already straight out asked and got rejected today by a girl. It felt so damn great, paradoxically, all my m8s were asking why i didnt seem to be depressed. It was difficult to explain how liberating it was to me to them .

Went to the gym and did my sport as well, the tired muscles felt so damn good as well. Almost everything went right for me today, i even found out that one of the hottest girls in my year (and amazing personality too: thats what makes her hot) really likes me. The information came in a torturous route but its such a confidence booster. I started to coach (fencing) her best mates younger brother and he said, o you are really close with . . . arent you. I was like "no, dont be silly" and then he explained how she was always going on about me.

Anyway: in other news, a little unhappy about my diet, ate almost nothing for breakfast (half a slice of bread, juice and coffee; i dont want to have caffeine, im cutting down on it). Two lunches, the second being slightly underdone bacon at my friends house and extra snacks. The bad thing is that it makes me feel so **** and i end up giving half of it away as i cant eat it.

Was very polite to elders today, not so good with fellow pupils but hey.

Progressing with one of the girls i want to get with.

Have not done any work but hopefully will do some now and also go to bed early.

 

[Void]

i want in..

 

[Mr. Debonaire]

Originally posted by ireallywantgirls
i want in..

NOOOOOO!!!

'TIS THE END OF THE FAMOUS FIVE!!!

nothing to report today lads, sick as hell spent the day in bed, loven the regection idea. i'm going to hook my buddys into playing the "regection game" with me at the mall. basically, everyone puts in 10 bucks, and the guy who leaves with the most regections wins the pot. you actually find yourself leaving with alot of numbers too

 

[AlexTheGreat]

I'll try getting rejected tomorrow by this chick who (I think) has friendzoned me ... it's gonna be interesting .... I'll also ask this other girl out, who I think has the hots for me. This is going to be nice


On a sidenote, how do you guys keep journals ? I start them sometimes, and after a few days, I just can't get myself to write in it anymore .... Exemple : I started one at the beginning of the year, and haven't written in it for more than 2 months ...

 

[That_Guy49]

drugs and procrastination have been the foundations of me messing up a lot.

I need to work on my grades

Attendance

I need to get a girlfriend

and find a way not to go to jail next week.....

 

[JSH]

Originally posted by ireallywantgirls
i want in..

um dude, its for a relapse session, rather than a I need to learn how to get girls (which a boot camp would be better for). No offence if you really have mastered yourself once before, but i doubt it as you would have changed your name from Ireallywantgirls.

 

[Cloud-uk]

Originally posted by ireallywantgirls

Yeah, sorry man I don't know anything about you. If you have had a great game in the past, through this site, but have let it slip, please put us straight, and get down some goals. If you're a newbie you should start the bootcamp. This is definitely not the place for guys who havent dropped down from a peak.

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If it's alright with you guys, I think we should keep up the rejection/ cold pick-up vein for this week. Mostly because I want to play the rejection game with my mates next friday (Damn you Mr. Debonaire! Why didn't I read that before I went out last night!?). Though I guess I can just do that for the hell of it... mehh lets just see how everyone is doing and sort it out then.

As for the journals, if you want to do one just start up your own thread titled "soandso's journal". Tom, I guess there is no real reason to stick it on another site. Just post whenever anything important happens. Alex, I find if you don't type in them it's because they don't help you. If you give people the jist of what is going on in your life through your posts in this thread, I guess there is no real reason to spend more time on the computer.

JSH, how good does it feel man!? I properly felt like a weight had been lifted off my chest, and after I got turned down I went out and had such a good workout session. It was mad, I'd totally forgotten it felt like that. Not including the rejection game I hope to play next weekend, I need to do my part and get some cold pick ups in there. I'll just do it around college, it's a big place.

I need to start to sort out my eating habits as well. I too am **** at eating regular meals. And since I want to put on weight I think I may need to get back into the protein shakes. Perhaps also get into the habit of making hench sandwiches for lunch. Hmmmm. I think that may be the next point of call, diet, and that includes people's drink and drug habits (That_guy, I'm looking at you on this one! -and good luck with changing). Still, getting ahead of myself- we'll sort that out next i think, for those that need it. How many of us are there now, 6?

-Alex

 

[jonny football hero]

Whoooooo, pretty physced, worked my first day today, got some money coming in!!

Havn't got rejected yet because i've been snowed in with work.

I'll have to skip the diet "target", i eat well, my mum is a nurse and knows all her ****.

 

[Mr. Debonaire]

hey lads, hope your weekend went well and you got your rejection on. lol

played the rejection game. didn't win, but i got 3 new numbers out of the deal

plus i turn 18 today! hell yes, now i can gamble and buy porn. lol. played that up with the chicks (what are you giving me for my birthday. just a couple cds? your going to have to do better to get with THIS!)


not bad for a couple days work