"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Rejection of kino

MacAvoy

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godblessamerica said:
Well it was worth it hanging around for a year Macavoy I mean are you spininng three plates right now
You bring up a very valid point. I'm glad you did. Since your new to the site, I'll point something very important out to you. You have to watch out for keyboard jockeys and guys that don't know what they are talking about, this is afterall an anonymous internet forum.

However you'll learn after a while who the respected posters are. One of the best ways to judge is to look at other posts and by threads started by a poster. My point is be wary of the advice you receive here, don't take it for gold.

What will be far more helpful is reading things like the bible, the book of pook and other archived posts. Because that is what will give you the knowledge to make decisions on your own. It will give you the foundation to be a better man, a more successful man.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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godblessamerica said:
its not entirely black and white as you guys make out but not as gray as I woudl liek it to be
And herein lies the truth my new friend. Your a smart guy, however like all us of, we make blunders. I do it as well. However thats what we are here for, to point things out. Many times on this forum, guys will be screaming that its black and white, AFC's will rationalize that its grey. The important thing for you is to find the balance and live your life accordingly.
 
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dongorgon whats your point i dont care about how many other guys are getting her action all i am interested is what action i get !!if it takes a year so what I have an extemely busy life work, study , sports . family, other plates spinning ....sometimes projects take time to fit into a busy schedule
 
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Point taken Macavoy look dont get me wrong I have really enjoyed the feedback you have and others have given me. After some deep introspection I think i persvered with her too long because i had my other plates to bounce back too when i got rejected .. There was a bit of push pull there as soon as cut contact with her after a bad date she was quick to initiate contact again. This is what confused me cos i coudlnt see the motivation for her doing that. On our dates I didnt do ****y/funny i ddint try to impress her i didnt qualify herself i just pitched in with gunwitch style body language and kino. So there was a lot of tension on our dates which generally ended in aragument .. I mean why did she want to keep doing this and for that matter why teh hell did I
 

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You're just a friend and that's all you are. Otherwise, she wouldn't get upset when you touch her. She would be longing for your touch. Keep her as a friend only or next her. You have no other options.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Even g/f's where we were always been friends and never sexual, don't mind some contact-assuming they don't have issues or are on guard for sexual advances. I don't know what degree you're talking about here, but if mild kino is sending her scurrying after 12 dates, I would just move on. That's way too much work and not likely to go anywhere.

Not knew to dating, but more due to the DJ stuff-I go with the three date rule as well. I am not yet so good at it that I have to nail her by the 3rd date per se (though in most cases, I'd say it's ideal), but it better at least be clear by that point that you're expecting things to go further, in which case kino should be perfectly acceptable.

It does sound like you're an orbiter, and as soon as she finds someone she's just a tad more interested in passing the time with, you won't hear from here anymore. Best to move on now.
 
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MotownMack said:
Even g/f's where we were always been friends and never sexual, don't mind some contact-assuming they don't have issues or are on guard for sexual advances. I don't know what degree you're talking about here, but if mild kino is sending her scurrying after 12 dates, I would just move on. That's way too much work and not likely to go anywhere.

Not knew to dating, but more due to the DJ stuff-I go with the three date rule as well. I am not yet so good at it that I have to nail her by the 3rd date per se (though in most cases, I'd say it's ideal), but it better at least be clear by that point that you're expecting things to go further, in which case kino should be perfectly acceptable.

It does sound like you're an orbiter, and as soon as she finds someone she's just a tad more interested in passing the time with, you won't hear from here anymore. Best to move on now.

Yes good advice I hear what you are saying .. wasted too much time orbiting around her .. still cant figure out why she stuck in there though cos i wasnt validating her and i was doing kino right from the word go and she would get mad and just keep coming bak for more. and honestly all I can think is maybe she was filling in a quiet weekend rather than being by herself , but you are right her time is definitely up !!!
 
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tick37 said:
You're just a friend and that's all you are. Otherwise, she wouldn't get upset when you touch her. She would be longing for your touch. Keep her as a friend only or next her. You have no other options.
you are right but i dont have girl - friends as rule its all or nothing ( she slid past my defence ) thats why i will NEXT her properly thanx for the input as it has sorted my head out
 
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