Reasons Women Leave

[zekko]

Here's an interesting video, shows how the reasons that women left LTRs (including marriages) have changed over time.

"Wouldn't let her work" was a big reason from the mid '60s to the mid '70s. Some men have/had pride that their wife didn't have to work, but I think a lot of them just didn't want to allow her the exposure to the outside world, meeting new people, or to lessen her dependence on him financially. Men were more controlling in those days. Now days I'm sure the second income is welcome, but I remember some guys on this forum saying their wife would never work. Not recently though.

"Physical abuse" was once a common problem, but it seems to have dropped off the chart completely by today. These days, men aren't going to get away with it.

"His toxic family" was a big reason that kind of surprised me, I didn't realize that was such a big problem.

"His drinking" is another reason that has dropped off the chart. "His porn addiction" popped up around the computer age, no surprise.

 

[The Duke]

Moral of the story: After all these years, women still care about your money or lack of! Every woman has a little "gold digger" in her no matter what they claim or how they behave.

So much for that wedding vow about "for richer, for poorer". LMAO

It's interesting that "cheating" moved around so much relative to the other reasons.

The older I get the more I realize long term commitment isn't about love and being the person the bible tells you to be. It's about what you can or can't do for the other person and her do for you. It's an exchange of offerings. When one stops meeting the conditions that were most likely never defined then the other gets mad and leaves.

LTR's and marriages need to be contract based with the conditions listed out. They are more about business than they are love and thats the reason I will never do marriage ever again. People are delusional, emotional, and not honest about the facts of the matter. And how does a marriage contract improve a relationship? How does it make one act any different? I've asked many women to answer those questions and none of them ever can.

The best and longest marriages I've seen always operated like a business and were always lacking on the romance(emotions, delusions, etc).

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Drinking/drug use is still a major issue from what I've seen, it's just become more almost "accepted" now until it reaches a point where it can't be dealt with anymore.

 

[Manure Spherian]

. And how does a marriage contract improve a relationship?

It’s actually not meant to do that, and never was.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Moral of the story: After all these years, women still care about your money or lack of! Every woman has a little "gold digger" in her no matter what they claim or how they behave.

So much for that wedding vow about "for richer, for poorer". LMAO

It's interesting that "cheating" moved around so much relative to the other reasons.

The older I get the more I realize long term commitment isn't about love and being the person the bible tells you to be. It's about what you can or can't do for the other person and her do for you. It's an exchange of offerings. When one stops meeting the conditions that were most likely never defined then the other gets mad and leaves.

LTR's and marriages need to be contract based with the conditions listed out. They are more about business than they are love and thats the reason I will never do marriage ever again. People are delusional, emotional, and not honest about the facts of the matter. And how does a marriage contract improve a relationship? How does it make one act any different? I've asked many women to answer those questions and none of them ever can.

The best and longest marriages I've seen always operated like a business and were always lacking on the romance(emotions, delusions, etc).

The problem is that all the requirements on the man side are still demanded and enforced by the law, plus new ones in the last decade.

The ones from the woman side are almost totally removed plus extra priledges have been added instead.

If I was a law maker and wanted to destroy birthrate and even relationships, I couldnt find a better made law to reach the goal without having people figure it out.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

The best and longest marriages I've seen always operated like a business and were always lacking on the romance(emotions, delusions, etc).

This sounds very interesting. Could you elaborate and/or provide examples?

 

[pipeman84]

I think those are just pretexts for the 2 real reasons: 1. she lacks a minimal level of intelligence and/or 2. she's so insufferable that an average guy can't live with her.

Let's take physical abuse and drinking. Of course I wouldn't suggest a woman stays with a guy who beats her or who is a drunkard. BUT, let's be honest here: were there no signs before they got together that he's violent or he likes to abuse drinking? Sure there were, but she ignored them. The alternate situation is that he was just a normal guy and through her behavior (nagging, emasculating, being violent herself etc) she pushed him over the limit and he either became violent or started to 'drown his sorrows'. I'm not excusing the guy here, I'm just pointing out that things like these don't just happen in a vacuum.

Others in the list such as religious differences, toxic family or different backgrounds should be more than obvious that they are just excuses. How the heck do you even become a couple in the first place if you're not OK with such basic characteristics?

 

[CornbreadFed]

The older I get the more I realize long term commitment isn't about love and being the person the bible tells you to be. It's about what you can or can't do for the other person and her do for you. It's an exchange of offerings. When one stops meeting the conditions that were most likely never defined then the other gets mad and leaves.

It's like a sales job, your quota will always increase and they will only care about what you can do now and your future trajectory not what you did then.

 

[Ricky]

It's like a sales job, your quota will always increase and they will only care about what you can do now and your future trajectory not what you did then.

That’s the thing that always boggles my mind me about most women. When it comes to good things its what have you done for me lately and they don’t remember all the good you did.

but they remember absolutely anything bad you did forever

 

[plumber]

keep in mind that women often create reason for what they want to do. she can tell any of those reasons that will appear that she is the victim. the reason might be a fact or not. often the real reason is something else that is less victim looking. she leaves when attraction is far enough down AND there is attraction some OTHER place either real or imagined. look at how FAST she hooks up to another after leaving... not every time, but most of the time.

for example she does not leave due to the calculator showing money is small. she leaves because the behavior of the man can suck when his money is smaller than before... or when his social circle got more wealthy and he did not. or when drinking allot. drinking is fine and often the reason for meeting in the first place... but it can and will degrade the man and make him less attractive physically and often financially and even mentally.... no problem with a good looking rich, healthy and kind drunk....

 

[The Duke]

This sounds very interesting. Could you elaborate and/or provide examples?

I have multiple relatives as well as my parents that very much all care for each other but aren't overly romantic or affectionate. I am guessing their sex lives arent any thing wild nor frequent. They view sex more for procreation, not recreation and pleasure. Their roles are very well defined. The men make the money, work long hours, and the women support the family and run the house. All of them run their own successful businesses, and are multi-millionaires. There is little drama or dysfunction between spouses. They go out to dinner on Saturday night and have a few drinks. On Sunday morning they go to church. They support each other 100%. None are big about social media. They see the relationship like a business, that needs looked after and should grow successfully.

Its totally not what I see with the average American couple living in suburbia trying to keep their head above water and swim faster than the other rats, where both spouses work for corporate America.

 

[Prepostereax]

Well it's "interesting" albeit unsurprising that there's no personal accountability in any of those reasons.

For example, Financial reasons? It's a biggie too.
Like, she's gonna be better off, financially, on her own?
Does not compute.

There's no category for "I found someone hotter/ richer/ less of a jerk"

I presume the data was obtained by canvassing divorcées.

What would be really interesting would be comparing men's reasons for splitting up.
I suspect you might see a bit more honesty there, even if it means admitting to moral shortcomings.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@zekko "Wouldn't let her work" was a big reason from the mid '60s to the mid '70s"

Throughout human history, it's only been the wives of the aristocracy and landed gentry who've had that luxury. Even in agrarian societies, MOST women are out working in the fields, alongside the majority of the men


@The Duke "Moral of the story: After all these years, women still care about your money or lack of! Every woman has a little "gold digger" in her no matter what they claim or how they behave.

So much for that wedding vow about "for richer, for poorer"

Damn straight!!! And if we're being honest, we're still highly attentive to how beautiful and sexy our women are, even after wifing her up

Just as lots of fellas fall under the illusion that they've "made it" once they've reached middle management, subsequently stagnant personally(This includes their wives leaving them) and professionally, entirely too many chicks pack on the pounds and cease to put out, within a few months of becoming a Mrs

@Ricky "That’s the thing that always boggles my mind me about most women. When it comes to good things its what have you done for me lately and they don’t remember all the good you did"

NO ONE gives half a rat's dirty ass what you did for them last week or a month ago... The future is constantly taking root in the present, ergo everybody is constantly wondering: "How likely is it that my investing in you today will enrich my life down the road?"

For reasons which remain inexplicable, we persist in pretending that our dealings with women are dramatically different from those we have with everyone else

 

[Bokanovsky]

This sounds very interesting. Could you elaborate and/or provide examples?

There is research suggesting that couples that work together (i.e. a family business) are less likely to divorces. This makes sense, as such couples have a common goal and high degree of interdependence. Similarly, couples that are raising children are less likely to get divorced. Again, they have a common purpose. Once the children grow up and the parents become empty nesters, the odds of divorce go up.

 

[HaleyBaron]

The reasons to leave have always been female dominated. Women initiate most relationship breakups, marriage or not. Us men, as long as the lay is good or the woman is a good housewife, we don't usually want to destroy that. Seen too many guys who stayed with their wives cause they couldn't see a life without her company. To them, her nagging was fine as long as he got food and she kept things cleaned up. Women on the other hand are very fickle. And with the law as it is, women have far more incentive and a safety net to leave a man without being judged as bad.

It has gotten so bad that women brag about how many divorces and ex's they went through. Or the alimony or how much child support they get. It's downright insane the level of entitlement and non-accountability that exists today from that ilk of the gender.

There's an interesting statistic from this site:

Divorce Statistics and Facts | What Affects Divorce Rates in the U.S.?

We found every divorce statistic, study and fact you need to know - over 115 in all. Find out what impacts divorce (spoiler: almost everything).

www.wf-lawyers.com

Why People are Divorcing in the United States

42. Lack of commitment is the most common reason given by divorcing couples according to a recent national survey. Here are the reasons given and their percentages:

• Lack of commitment 73%
• Argue too much 56%
• Infidelity 55%
• Married too young 46%
• Unrealistic expectations 45%
• Lack of equality in the relationship 44%
• Lack of preparation for marriage 41%
• Domestic Violence or Abuse 25%

(Respondents often cited more that one reason, therefore the percentages add up to much more than 100 percent)

Your Sexual History

59. Women who lost their virginity as a teenager are more than twice as likely to get divorced in the first 5 years of marriage than women who waited until age 18 or older.

62. Women with 6 or more premarital sexual partners are almost 3 times less likely to be in a stable marriage.

Out of all the reasons of the divorce, the only one that actually should warrant it is Domestic Violence and Abuse (Im being generous saying that as unearned violence is rare). The rest of the list is entirely subjective, as women tend to muddle the reasons with their doublespeak narratives.

 

[Manure Spherian]

The reasons to leave have always been female dominated. Women initiate most relationship breakups, marriage or not. Us men, as long as the lay is good or the woman is a good housewife, we don't usually want to destroy that. Seen too many guys who stayed with their wives cause they couldn't see a life without her company. To them, her nagging was fine as long as he got food and she kept things cleaned up. Women on the other hand are very fickle. And with the law as it is, women have far more incentive and a safety net to leave a man without being judged as bad.

It has gotten so bad that women brag about how many divorces and ex's they went through. Or the alimony or how much child support they get. It's downright insane the level of entitlement and non-accountability that exists today from that ilk of the gender.

There's an interesting statistic from this site:

Divorce Statistics and Facts | What Affects Divorce Rates in the U.S.?

We found every divorce statistic, study and fact you need to know - over 115 in all. Find out what impacts divorce (spoiler: almost everything).

www.wf-lawyers.com

Out of all the reasons of the divorce, the only one that actually should warrant it is Domestic Violence and Abuse (Im being generous saying that as unearned violence is rare). The rest of the list is entirely subjective, as women tend to muddle the reasons with their doublespeak narratives.

Yes, and this is why up until the Tender Years Doctrine 100% father custody after divorce was automatic! It was the checkmate!

 

[zekko]

There is research suggesting that couples that work together (i.e. a family business) are less likely to divorces. This makes sense, as such couples have a common goal and high degree of interdependence. Similarly, couples that are raising children are less likely to get divorced. Again, they have a common purpose. Once the children grow up and the parents become empty nesters, the odds of divorce go up.

I've heard that. I think it's admirable that some parents stay together for the kids, but you'd think the pressure of working together or raising kids might cause a split.

The reasons to leave have always been female dominated. Women initiate most relationship breakups, marriage or not. Us men, as long as the lay is good or the woman is a good housewife, we don't usually want to destroy that. [/URL]

I've always thought that one simple reason men tend to hang in there longer is that they have taken a vow (as in marriage), or at least made a commitment, and men are more likely to take honoring their word seriously. Goes back to the days of knights and chivalry (and no, I don't see those things in a negative light).

Regarding domestic abuse, I'm sure there are a lot of reasons for it, but I would say not many actions justify it. A man should not be punching out a much smaller female, just as biological men should not be competing in violent sports with women (IMO). I'd also note that there is some correlation between drunkenness and domestic abuse. The guy comes home drunk, gets into a fight, and he's not in full control, and the next thing you know something ugly happens.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I've heard that. I think it's admirable that some parents stay together for the kids, but you'd think the pressure of working together or raising kids might cause a split.



I've always thought that one simple reason men tend to hang in there longer is that they have taken a vow (as in marriage), or at least made a commitment, and men are more likely to take honoring their word seriously. Goes back to the days of knights and chivalry (and no, I don't see those things in a negative light).

Regarding domestic abuse, I'm sure there are a lot of reasons for it, but I would say not many actions justify it. A man should not be punching out a much smaller female, just as biological men should not be competing in violent sports with women (IMO). I'd also note that there is some correlation between drunkenness and domestic abuse. The guy comes home drunk, gets into a fight, and he's not in full control, and the next thing you know something ugly happens.

But guess what caused the drunkness.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I've always thought that one simple reason men tend to hang in there longer is that they have taken a vow (as in marriage), or at least made a commitment, and men are more likely to take honoring their word seriously. Goes back to the days of knights and chivalry (and no, I don't see those things in a negative light).

There's also the fact that men typically have more to lose in a divorce (both, in a financial and non-financial sense).

 

[zekko]

But guess what caused the drunkness.

Eh, maybe you're half kidding, but I don't buy that a woman drives a man to drink. I mean I'm sure it happens, but if she does, that is one very, very weak man, to have to turn to alcohol to cope. But most young men I've known, overall, don't need any extra encouragement to go out and have a drink, or get high, or whatever their pleasure is.