zerocelcius
Master Don Juan
Whoomp there it is!
You get a gold Star!
You get a gold Star!
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I used to be treated horribly in middleschool. I was miserable. All my friends just kept me around to make fun of me and give me a hard time. I just sat at home and read books ALL the time. In High school, I came out of my shell a little bit. I got a hot girlfriend (who knows how THAT happened) and that gave me a little respect. I am a smart, witty guy and I know how to speak but it has been a long process to learn those things. I have spent many, many, many hours analyzing speech patterns and habits of the unpopular or unliked people I see around me. I search for those attributes in myself and I eliminate them. These include things like:Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
I think the poise is from being treated as if she/he is important. We talked about this sh.it in my interpersonal comm class last week: People who are treated well by their peer group from an early will always be treated well, things can change, but for the most part they will always have that something special. For nerd boy to get that same inner confidence is going to take some hard work, not carring is not confidence...
Same here!If highschool-era ikkenai and current-era ikkenai could meet, they wouldn't recognize each other.
Sorry Nishbuk, you are totally wrong (and sorry, I must once again refer to your youth). In my case, I have a very successful career, high income, have more money than I know what to do with alot of the time, and have always had a girlfriend or wife since I was about 15 years old. My problem is, I'm not happy with my relationship situation, and I realize I'm trapped to some degree by my limitations. Sure, a person can change superficial things, but when your problem is likely personality or ingrained attributes, it's difficult to change - difficult to change if you even knew what those issues were - when does a female or anyone give you usefull info. about yourself so you can change ?You don't have a successful job that FULFILLS you as a person, you probably don't have as much money as you want. You probably haven't found a life purpose. You probably haven't been all that successful with women...
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Sorry, but you sound like someone that has GIVEN UP.Originally posted by BigFoot
I've read Doc Love, read the discussion groups, watched others who are successful, gained alot of experience myself, and realized something: most people probably can't change their attractiveness or relationship success all that much.
We are basically born with certain looks and characteristics; we then develop those somewhat through our early learning experiences. After that, it's very difficult to change those basic attributes.
Some people have it, some don't.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Yes, but that is what gives you the confidence that you can build on to do other things. If you look good, you feel good. If you feel good, you have the confidence to go up and start that conversation with that cute girl you have been eyeing.Originally posted by BigFoot
I haven't given up Luvr, but last night I realized I have some real limitations, and they are not easy to change even if one knew what they were. I agree changing superficial things like your appearance is pretty easy.
I used to be like you. I used to tell myself those exact same things. But that was the problem:Originally posted by Tazman
I agree that you can "modify" certain behaviours but I'm sceptical of people who say they've completely changed their attitude/mannerisms. I'm an introverted person; although I have moments of "extrovertedness" I'm still a shy guy at heart.
I don't think it's possible for me to change who I am, I'll always be who I am.
I have definitely modified my behaviour to make myself more successful with women but I don't think it's possible to change who I am inside.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
There are many ways that you can make your skin better looking/virbant.Originally posted by animal crackers
How do you change your skin quality?
Tell us what specifically you are trying to change in your character and maybe in your relationships and let us see what we can come up with.Originally posted by BigFoot
Thanks MrLuvr. I HAVE worked at it , in fact I'm the type of person that is constantly trying to improve in a number of areas, but I have found I have limitations in maintaining relationships with women (women that I really want that is) that I seem to be repeating and that are probably part of my basic character and not changeable.