PuertoRican_Lover
Banned
Be afraid of being and doing less than what is expected of a man when relating to a woman - this should be your greatest fear and failure!!
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Real Depressed; Need Desperate Help
- Thread starter SIXPAKGQ
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
SIXPACK,
Do not get "depressed" over this one 19 yr old girl! (not yet a woman) You are young and have your whole life (and plenty of other women) ahead of you. Rejection is tough, but you need to develop an attitude against getting heartbroken (protect the heart). I know you invested 5 months and read the signals wrong or in some people's opinion you just played your cards wrong, but whatever you probably will just have to give up on the idea of her (oneitis) and next her. Turn a negative into a positive. Let this motivate you and channel your frustration/depression into new energy. Toughen yourself mentally and emotionally. As time passes you'll get over it. Hey, I could understand if you married her and had 2 kids and she ran off with your best friend or something (that is depressing) but just because she sees you as a friend you cannot take that personally. There are plenty of women that may want a romantic relationship with you, but you may see them as "friends." That is just a fact about relationships between men and women. Yes, she may be a good one, but there is little you can do if it is clear that her IL is not there and is unlikely to change anytime soon. Good luck and don't get "depressed" over women...that will KILL your DJ attitude and hurt the way you come across to new women out in the field.
Do not get "depressed" over this one 19 yr old girl! (not yet a woman) You are young and have your whole life (and plenty of other women) ahead of you. Rejection is tough, but you need to develop an attitude against getting heartbroken (protect the heart). I know you invested 5 months and read the signals wrong or in some people's opinion you just played your cards wrong, but whatever you probably will just have to give up on the idea of her (oneitis) and next her. Turn a negative into a positive. Let this motivate you and channel your frustration/depression into new energy. Toughen yourself mentally and emotionally. As time passes you'll get over it. Hey, I could understand if you married her and had 2 kids and she ran off with your best friend or something (that is depressing) but just because she sees you as a friend you cannot take that personally. There are plenty of women that may want a romantic relationship with you, but you may see them as "friends." That is just a fact about relationships between men and women. Yes, she may be a good one, but there is little you can do if it is clear that her IL is not there and is unlikely to change anytime soon. Good luck and don't get "depressed" over women...that will KILL your DJ attitude and hurt the way you come across to new women out in the field.
MindOverMatter
Master Don Juan
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Well, that wins my favorite line of the week award.
To the original poster:
You screwed it up. Despite what you state, you did not act as a DJ. You acted AFC to the core. You waited way too long, and she lost interest in you because you did not have the testicles to make a move on her. She's gone, and there's nothing you can do to change that. All you can do is learn from your mistakes, move on, and find someone else.
Here are some pointers for you:
1.) The game starts as soon as you see her. Let a girl know you're interested in her as soon as you meet her. Eyecontact, open ended questions about herself, smiling, number close and take off. Forget all that bullsh!t about women wanting to be friends first. That sh!t only happens on sitcoms (stop watching tv). Women want an assertive guy who knows what he wants, and she happens to be one of those things. If she's not interested, move on and don't waste another second on her. It's simple. No 5 month waiting bullsh!t.
2.) Don't be afraid to start kino. And when you start it, escalate it slowly (by slowly i mean escalate it slowly over the next 15-20 minutes, not 4-5 months).
3.) Despite how much they complain and spread hate about them, women want players. Don't be afraid of being labeled one. They want to tame one, and convert him into a one-woman man (with her being that one-woman). A player is a challange for her to overcome, it makes her life more exciting. What the f*ck does a nice guy do besides make a good doormat?
Blue Phoenix
Master Don Juan
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You're still a nice guy!
You'll have a hard time deprograming all that "niceness" built into your mind and all your insecurities as well!
You have to keep trying and reading the material here. Let this girl go, there'll be others. This is something you have to stick in your mind.
You'll have a hard time deprograming all that "niceness" built into your mind and all your insecurities as well!
You have to keep trying and reading the material here. Let this girl go, there'll be others. This is something you have to stick in your mind.
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Bonhomme
Master Don Juan
This is too simple
She gave you the green light, and you didn't go.
So she decided to move on. Very simple.
MidOverMatter is right on the money.
My advice is to work your way up from women who are just barely attractive enough to you for you to want them. Start by learning to make the moves on the easy ones.
I used to have the same problem. Now I don't. If I can do it, you can.
She gave you the green light, and you didn't go.
So she decided to move on. Very simple.
MidOverMatter is right on the money.
My advice is to work your way up from women who are just barely attractive enough to you for you to want them. Start by learning to make the moves on the easy ones.
I used to have the same problem. Now I don't. If I can do it, you can.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
saigonheadache
Don Juan
Re: ....
Man, you need someone to bltch-slap you for saying all this ****. Life is harsh buddy. All the girls are the same, those who are "different" have problems that you haven't discovered them. Stop looking for the special or the "different one" they are women, they already are different. Remember, romantically and sexually they mature and stop growing when they are 16, so your age theory holds nothing. Instead change your life now and stop being the victim.
Someone get this guy a kleenex
Man, you need someone to bltch-slap you for saying all this ****. Life is harsh buddy. All the girls are the same, those who are "different" have problems that you haven't discovered them. Stop looking for the special or the "different one" they are women, they already are different. Remember, romantically and sexually they mature and stop growing when they are 16, so your age theory holds nothing. Instead change your life now and stop being the victim.
Someone get this guy a kleenex
saigonheadache
Don Juan
And if you want to hear something more eye-opening is that they feed off of a mans power. She'll stand there and drink your blood as long as you let her. Those 5 months she knew you wanted her but she never told you she was just using you as a confidence booster. So s&it was on her terms. Next time play your own game man and turn all her attempts to take over against her. But read all the info on this site first. It tells you how to do it.
Sorry man but it's a dog eat dog world. Kill or be killed like it happened to you. And maybe one day you will come across a girl who will love you so much that you may as well wife her. I'm not sayin love does not exist. But never fall in love before she does
Sorry man but it's a dog eat dog world. Kill or be killed like it happened to you. And maybe one day you will come across a girl who will love you so much that you may as well wife her. I'm not sayin love does not exist. But never fall in love before she does
Blue Phoenix
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Pretty acurate. The ones that you think "WOW she's so different, fantastic", are usually fvcked up.
There're exceptions but usually most of them are crazy!!!
Lost In Translation
Master Don Juan
Quote - SIXPAKGQ
don't most women want a guy who they can be friends with first and then a relationship.
HELL NO !
Quote - SIXPAKGQ
lover : i kissed her hands thats about it..i am too much of a P**sy to kiss her lips....i played slow.....i wanted to make sure that she was the one....wouldnt she think i am a player if i kissed her early?
HELL NO !
Quote - PRL
I feel like choking you for doing less than your duty as a man!! Women want men to pursue them - this is their desire and by you kissing her hand she saw you less than a man because you did less than what a man should/would do!! Your 'hand-kissing' attempt was weak and you are trying to be 'nice' instead of being a man!!! This approached may have worked in the 17th century, but this is a new day!!!
LMAO !!! CHOKE HIM PRL SAVE ME FROM DOING IT !!!
Quote - SIXPAKGQ
afterall a DJ is a player right?
WRONG , A DJ IS A MAN
and thats what ALL WOMEN want. A MAN.
READ THE DJ BIBLE AGAIN PLEASE !
Quote - SIXPAKGQ
i mean if u were in my shoes
if PRL were in your shoes....
after 5 months ?
she would have a tattoo on her a$$ saying PROPERTY OF PRL
if it was Player_Supreme after 5 months he would have join access to her bank accounts LOL
and if it was me she would be outside in the sunshine washing my car in a bikini while i sit and watch drinking a beer that she opened for me
Lost In Translation
**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**
Quote: Don Juanabbe
“ What are you Vanilla-bloody-Ice? “
Quote: Player_Supreme
“ But if a ho wants to just be friends then don't waste your time. And I'm a debase character so your hooking up with her friend in front of her was sweet to my ears. “
Quote: Player_Supreme
“I've taken a fat chick and put her on a diet and training program and created my own super ho. “
Quote: PuertoRican_Lover
“First off - she is just another hor who has opened her legs to another man - you are no one special - and there are no "Greatest" to hors - you are just the next pimp in line!!! “
Quote: squirrels
“ You NEVER pay as a supplicative or bargaining measure, though. The reward that she gets for her affection is YOUR affection. The reward she gets for her sex is YOUR sex. The second you start buying her stuff to keep her around, keep her entertained in your presence, etc...you're compensating for not having what it takes to seduce the woman, and that's totally unacceptable. “
don't most women want a guy who they can be friends with first and then a relationship.
HELL NO !
Quote - SIXPAKGQ
lover : i kissed her hands thats about it..i am too much of a P**sy to kiss her lips....i played slow.....i wanted to make sure that she was the one....wouldnt she think i am a player if i kissed her early?
HELL NO !
Quote - PRL
I feel like choking you for doing less than your duty as a man!! Women want men to pursue them - this is their desire and by you kissing her hand she saw you less than a man because you did less than what a man should/would do!! Your 'hand-kissing' attempt was weak and you are trying to be 'nice' instead of being a man!!! This approached may have worked in the 17th century, but this is a new day!!!
LMAO !!! CHOKE HIM PRL SAVE ME FROM DOING IT !!!
Quote - SIXPAKGQ
afterall a DJ is a player right?
WRONG , A DJ IS A MAN
and thats what ALL WOMEN want. A MAN.
READ THE DJ BIBLE AGAIN PLEASE !
Quote - SIXPAKGQ
i mean if u were in my shoes
if PRL were in your shoes....
after 5 months ?
she would have a tattoo on her a$$ saying PROPERTY OF PRL
if it was Player_Supreme after 5 months he would have join access to her bank accounts LOL
and if it was me she would be outside in the sunshine washing my car in a bikini while i sit and watch drinking a beer that she opened for me
Lost In Translation
**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**
Quote: Don Juanabbe
“ What are you Vanilla-bloody-Ice? “
Quote: Player_Supreme
“ But if a ho wants to just be friends then don't waste your time. And I'm a debase character so your hooking up with her friend in front of her was sweet to my ears. “
Quote: Player_Supreme
“I've taken a fat chick and put her on a diet and training program and created my own super ho. “
Quote: PuertoRican_Lover
“First off - she is just another hor who has opened her legs to another man - you are no one special - and there are no "Greatest" to hors - you are just the next pimp in line!!! “
Quote: squirrels
“ You NEVER pay as a supplicative or bargaining measure, though. The reward that she gets for her affection is YOUR affection. The reward she gets for her sex is YOUR sex. The second you start buying her stuff to keep her around, keep her entertained in your presence, etc...you're compensating for not having what it takes to seduce the woman, and that's totally unacceptable. “
Player_Supreme
Banned
Re: Re: Real Depressed; Need Desperate Help
Amen PRL. This is on point in my book!!!!
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
SIXPAKGQ
Don Juan
Why do some women show interest in men only to reject them? how many of you have this incident happen?
SIXPAKGQ
Don Juan
Why aren't there many women on this forum? what would be their opinion?
Lost In Translation
Master Don Juan
*holds breath*
did he just say what i think he said ?
$hit dude you better run while you still got the chance...
this gunna be like an episode of OZ.......
Lost In Translation
did he just say what i think he said ?
$hit dude you better run while you still got the chance...
this gunna be like an episode of OZ.......
Lost In Translation
SIXPAKGQ
Don Juan
LIT : just give me ur honest opinion
Re: ...
girls don' think you are a player unless you act like one. A dj is calm an collected he doesn't play around wth women. He simply goes where the interest level is high. you spent five months on a girl with low interest. what you should do next time is increase the number of girls you know. hit up 2-3 girls a month. that way you will always have a girl that shows high interest.
you need to turn things around... when you do the girls will be calling you to go out. remember when a girl wants a man or is really horney for you she will act and do what ever it takes to get you. you don't have to do anything!
at the end of the day it is all about how usefull a woman is to you. when dealing with women keep it practical. don't worry about emotions. it is all about how usefull she is.
this is the way i play things.. in fact i just got back from another BJ. what did you do tonight? cry?
if you want to get to know her from the inside you finger her or you bang her.
girls don' think you are a player unless you act like one. A dj is calm an collected he doesn't play around wth women. He simply goes where the interest level is high. you spent five months on a girl with low interest. what you should do next time is increase the number of girls you know. hit up 2-3 girls a month. that way you will always have a girl that shows high interest.
you need to turn things around... when you do the girls will be calling you to go out. remember when a girl wants a man or is really horney for you she will act and do what ever it takes to get you. you don't have to do anything!
at the end of the day it is all about how usefull a woman is to you. when dealing with women keep it practical. don't worry about emotions. it is all about how usefull she is.
this is the way i play things.. in fact i just got back from another BJ. what did you do tonight? cry?
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
their opinion would be totaly useless to you.
women don't know what they want. If you are reading articles on the net, books, mags or watching tv about what women want then you are totally lost. most people before they come to this site actually belive all that crap. you need to stop thinking that way.
women think they know what they want but in the end they go for the guy who is a real man.
one word of adivce is never to listen to what a woman says she wants. read the dj bible and then read it again.
SIXPAKGQ
Don Juan
kevin ; well i thought she was showing high interest; i guess i read the signals wrong? what would u do if a women was flirting with you but only to reject u at the end? wait a minute, a DJ does not beleive in getting to know the woman? not sexually, i am talking mentally
Lost In Translation
Master Don Juan
SIXPAKGQ
from this thread , your posts and all the other AFC threads and posts you are spreading on this forum i have come to one conclusion
YOU HAVE NOT READ THE DJ BIBLE
you are wasting your/our time because you are going in circles.
i don't mean to sound harsh but all the stuff you asking again and again and again is in the DJ Bible under specific headings for those questions.
you keep questioning what a DJ is.
you keep putting down and misunderstanding what a DJ is.
have you read the DJ Bible ????
Lost In Translation
**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**
Quote: Don Juanabbe
“ What are you Vanilla-bloody-Ice? “
Quote: Player_Supreme
“ But if a ho wants to just be friends then don't waste your time. And I'm a debase character so your hooking up with her friend in front of her was sweet to my ears. “
Quote: Player_Supreme
“I've taken a fat chick and put her on a diet and training program and created my own super ho. “
Quote: PuertoRican_Lover
“First off - she is just another hor who has opened her legs to another man - you are no one special - and there are no "Greatest" to hors - you are just the next pimp in line!!! “
Quote: squirrels
“ You NEVER pay as a supplicative or bargaining measure, though. The reward that she gets for her affection is YOUR affection. The reward she gets for her sex is YOUR sex. The second you start buying her stuff to keep her around, keep her entertained in your presence, etc...you're compensating for not having what it takes to seduce the woman, and that's totally unacceptable. “
from this thread , your posts and all the other AFC threads and posts you are spreading on this forum i have come to one conclusion
YOU HAVE NOT READ THE DJ BIBLE
you are wasting your/our time because you are going in circles.
i don't mean to sound harsh but all the stuff you asking again and again and again is in the DJ Bible under specific headings for those questions.
you keep questioning what a DJ is.
you keep putting down and misunderstanding what a DJ is.
have you read the DJ Bible ????
Lost In Translation
**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**
Quote: Don Juanabbe
“ What are you Vanilla-bloody-Ice? “
Quote: Player_Supreme
“ But if a ho wants to just be friends then don't waste your time. And I'm a debase character so your hooking up with her friend in front of her was sweet to my ears. “
Quote: Player_Supreme
“I've taken a fat chick and put her on a diet and training program and created my own super ho. “
Quote: PuertoRican_Lover
“First off - she is just another hor who has opened her legs to another man - you are no one special - and there are no "Greatest" to hors - you are just the next pimp in line!!! “
Quote: squirrels
“ You NEVER pay as a supplicative or bargaining measure, though. The reward that she gets for her affection is YOUR affection. The reward she gets for her sex is YOUR sex. The second you start buying her stuff to keep her around, keep her entertained in your presence, etc...you're compensating for not having what it takes to seduce the woman, and that's totally unacceptable. “
SIXPAKGQ
Don Juan
i have read the DJ Bible. The bible talks about in general not specific problems that I have.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.