"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Rather than calling this girl......

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So, I've met this girl and I got her number. We see each other on campus a lot and I'm wondering, rather than calling her and asking her to go out to a movie or whatever, should I simply ask her when I see her?

At the end of the day on Monday, we run into each other (we have class in the same building, and she usually waits around for me, or she'll walk really slow towards her car, or if she sees me behind her, she waits up for me) and we talk all the way to the parking lot, and then we usually hang around for a while and talk. Last week when we talked it was about a half hour. So, I obviously have a rapport and I already have her number. We haven't gone out before, but I'm thinking a movie or dinner or something can't hurt. I actually haven't called her either, just been really busy with school/work/working out.

I also mentioned to her that I played golf and she said.. "I'd really like to learn how to play." Every girl I've told that to says that though, so I'm not sure about it lol. Any advice on this situation? Any ideas on what to do? It is at the end of the day, and I'm sure she's just as hungry as I am by then....
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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moto

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you already know what to do man. Just ask her out. Go hang out have a good time let her enjoy your company.

WHat are you waiting for?
 

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Wow these types of threads are very common.

Anyways as you're walking towards your cars or standing around suggest that you get lunch together.

Also tell her that you are going to play golf and such and such date, and ask if she would like to come with. When she says she doesn't know how to play tell her that it's not a problem. Teaching somebody how to do a golf swing is a great excuse for some kino.
 

moto

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Maxtro said:
Wow these types of threads are very common.

Anyways as you're walking towards your cars or standing around suggest that you get lunch together.

Also tell her that you are going to play golf and such and such date, and ask if she would like to come with. When she says she doesn't know how to play tell her that it's not a problem. Teaching somebody how to do a golf swing is a great excuse for some kino.
exactly.....just suggest something and progress
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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