Rate this guys face plz

[characternote]

ez 9/10 maybe even 9.5, that's assuming she has a good body though

agreed

 

[Cheeky_James]

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[Cheeky_James]

CJ doesn't this^^ prove there is no magic "formula" that will guarantee a woman will feel chemistry with you?

Yes EXACTLY.
Cos all based on LOOKS and physical chemistry!!!
I’m glad you got there in the end !!
The rest of it is a backwards rationalisation by the woman of how the guys personality is also attractive as she’s highky tuned on, firstly by his Looks!! She makes the decision very quickly.

What other explanation could their be..
Reference the sayings
“Love is blind”
“I painted his red flags green “
Etc

Three woman, one didnt feel chemistry, two others DID! You behaved the exact same with all three! Your "game," your looks were the same

There is no rhyme or reason to any of this IME. Looksmaxxing etc. There are guys on this forum who have posted about going out wearing a Nike sweatshirt, jeans and baseball cap and they have pulled plenty of women!

I agree with it's about how a woman feels when she sees you, meets you and in your presence.

Not sure if such feelings can be manufactured by what he "does," for me personally when I notice a man "trying" to impress me or trying to create a feeling in me, it's a great big turn off. It comes off contrived and phony in many instances.

To me he lacks true confidence to just be himself and trust that's enough. If not, so be, he moves on

I will either feel it naturally and organically or I won't. He does NOT have to be the most attractive man in the room, he does not have to be a model or be wearing the perfect shoes, clothes, have the right hair etc. He doesn't even need to have a lot of charm or charisma!

What he needs to be is attractive to me, and yes I have my own standards which I won't bother listing because another woman might have a different list.

And I am not one to brag but I am considered quite attractive, depending on the guy and what attracts him. Whether he likes blondes or brunettea, light-skinned, dark-skinned, petite, tall etc. Like we've been saying it's all subjective.

My current boyfriend for example thinks I am a solid 10! No joke, even when I wake up in the morning! Lol

So it really has nothing to do with how beautiful a woman is, women are women, she either feels chemistry, that certain somethin somethin, sexual tension or she doesn't.

Don't try to force it CJ or find the magic sauce, just be you. Be the best you can be, if that means getting in better physical shape or getting a better haircut or whatever do it! For YOU. Women will notice but do it for you.

It's been said here when a chick is into you, you could do handstands in the middle of Fifth Avenue in NYC and she will think it's hilarious!

Another woman not feeling it will think you are obnoxious and be turned off.

That's how genuine attraction and chemistry works IME anyway and what I have observed outside this forum IRL.

$.02

yes again exactly.
So all this ‘game’ talk is nonsense.
A guy that has ‘game’ with women , a player . has it because of his great Looks.

that’s all there is too it.

Game = good Looks.
The more handsome a man is = the most opportunities and females he will get.

period!

so any kind of personality maxxing or other maxxing outaide of

-Looks maxxing /fashion
(Including giving off a higher status vibe W Looks)

is putting efforts into something that DOESNT REALLY MATTER.

It won’t move the needle with women for plain faced dude.

there is only playing much bigger numbers that such a player guy does. And hope to get lucky.

so in that case. Most guys ‘fail’ in interactions with women , due to just not having the Looks.
there is no ‘game’ problem the guy is having….wrt to his charm or charisma , his rapport building or his pacing in the interaction.

He was dead in a few seconds into the interacfion
Regardless of all the analysis.

 

[Sega Genesis]

I’m glad you got there in the end !!

I didn't 'get there,' I have been posting about physical chemistry and energy from the beginning.

Game = good Looks.

Good looks TO HER.

Again it's subjective and it's also based on his natural vibe, how he carries himself, his voice, it's ALL related.

Nuff said.

 

[Cheeky_James]

I didn't 'get there,' I have been posting about physical chemistry and energy from the beginning.



Good looks TO HER.

Again it's subjective and it's also based on his natural vibe, how he carries himself, his voice, it's ALL related.

Nuff said.

fvck.
I got you mixed up with BE.
Again. lol. Soz.

 

[characternote]

Good looks TO HER.

Yes. Now we're getting slightly into the nuance which is something i've spoken about at length.
I'm very blackpilled, and I always say everyone is over a long enough timeline and with enough experience. There is always that 'looks threshold' (especially when talking about cold approach and especially on young girls in their prime) which without meeting, no amount of game is gonna move the needle. But I'm not half as pessimistic as my fellow blackpillers because i'm aware that there is some blatant subjectivity. I'm aware it means that I have to hit on maybe 100x more girls than my chad friends in order to bang some crazy hot young girl. Even if my 'game' is 10x better than his. That's just teh way it is. But i've done it! More than a handful of times! It's why I think of cold approach not only as a 'numbers game' but more searching for unicorns in my case!! i.e beautiful girls (to my tastes, such as the one I posted above), half my age, who are attracted to my not especially handsome self! They're hard to find! And learning more 'game' doesn't change a thing. But getting as good looking as possible and approaching in SERIOUS volume is what has worked for me lol

Not to say that of course there's not such a thing as objective beauty. A face that 98% of women would think of as gorgeous and would sleep with the man attached too it without him having to do anything remotely special. I've witnessed that too!! More than a handful of times lol

 

[Cheeky_James]

Having said that. Jayz and Beyonce in her prime. Jayz is objectively ugly and Beyonce is/ was objectively beautiful.

Yes he is a billionaire but she is also filthy rich so that evens each other out..

Beyonce could literally date any male model or pretty actor. Yet she choose Jayz. Why? Because he's a charismatic mofo!

So logically you can apply this to any social settings where the man and woman are somewhat equal. Pretty female waitress and ugly male cook. Pretty cashier and ugly store manager. Pretty student and ugly student.

You are a troll and the forum keeps feeding you so..oh well..

this is the kind of BS that is rife on this forum.
JayZ the billionaire with his super high status….

“Oh but it was his ‘charisma’ that swung it for him to get Beyoncé.” “so therefore. logically. this proves proves -> blah blah blah”

this is like a Quantum Leap of low IQ …linking those things all together and applying it to the average guy (or even worse )the ugly guy ..as some ‘transferable’ magic charisma as a root factor of better success with women. That charisma is the great equalizer.

as if charisma stands on its own and can be learned/gained by the average guy or ugly guy.

jayZ ‘s mad ‘charisma’ comes from his Billions and his super success in music . His super -high STATUS bro. His influence.
FML

Ie- His Money and his Power.

As Charisma = Mad Power and influence.

that’s the meaning of the word. Look it up.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Yes. Now we're getting slightly into the nuance which is something i've spoken about at length.
I'm very blackpilled, and I always say everyone is over a long enough timeline and with enough experience. There is always that 'looks threshold' (especially when talking about cold approach and especially on young girls in their prime) which without meeting, no amount of game is gonna move the needle. But I'm not half as pessimistic as my fellow blackpillers because i'm aware that there is some blatant subjectivity. I'm aware it means that I have to hit on maybe 100x more girls than my chad friends in order to bang some crazy hot young girl. Even if my 'game' is 10x better than his. That's just teh way it is. But i've done it! More than a handful of times! It's why I think of cold approach not only as a 'numbers game' but more searching for unicorns in my case!! i.e beautiful girls (to my tastes, such as the one I posted above), half my age, who are attracted to my not especially handsome self! They're hard to find! And learning more 'game' doesn't change a thing. But getting as good looking as possible and approaching in SERIOUS volume is what has worked for me lol

Not to say that of course there's not such a thing as objective beauty. A face that 98% of women would think of as gorgeous and would sleep with the man attached too it without him having to do anything remotely special. I've witnessed that too!! More than a handful of times lol

A few questions for you
what do you think is happening with those 1/100 crazy hot young girl (s) .. why did they get with you?

Also
As you’ve done so many approaches now..
How quickly can you tell if the girl is keen and if your pickup attempt will progress ?

And how quickly do you think women feel it as a Y/N? Ie physical chemistry.
I think on the womans side the decision is made in a few seconds.

men get a boner in a few seconds
Women similarly get Gina tingles in a few seconds. basically.

edit ; maybe @Sega Genesis and @BeExcellent
Can describe what that feels like on the womans side in those first few seconds. Physiologically . In their lady parts

I’ve heard it described as a ‘lady-boner’ also.