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Master Don Juan
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agreedez 9/10 maybe even 9.5, that's assuming she has a good body though
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
agreedez 9/10 maybe even 9.5, that's assuming she has a good body though
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Yes EXACTLY.CJ doesn't this^^ prove there is no magic "formula" that will guarantee a woman will feel chemistry with you?
yes again exactly.Three woman, one didnt feel chemistry, two others DID! You behaved the exact same with all three! Your "game," your looks were the same
There is no rhyme or reason to any of this IME. Looksmaxxing etc. There are guys on this forum who have posted about going out wearing a Nike sweatshirt, jeans and baseball cap and they have pulled plenty of women!
I agree with it's about how a woman feels when she sees you, meets you and in your presence.
Not sure if such feelings can be manufactured by what he "does," for me personally when I notice a man "trying" to impress me or trying to create a feeling in me, it's a great big turn off. It comes off contrived and phony in many instances.
To me he lacks true confidence to just be himself and trust that's enough. If not, so be, he moves on
I will either feel it naturally and organically or I won't. He does NOT have to be the most attractive man in the room, he does not have to be a model or be wearing the perfect shoes, clothes, have the right hair etc. He doesn't even need to have a lot of charm or charisma!
What he needs to be is attractive to me, and yes I have my own standards which I won't bother listing because another woman might have a different list.
And I am not one to brag but I am considered quite attractive, depending on the guy and what attracts him. Whether he likes blondes or brunettea, light-skinned, dark-skinned, petite, tall etc. Like we've been saying it's all subjective.
My current boyfriend for example thinks I am a solid 10!No joke, even when I wake up in the morning! Lol
So it really has nothing to do with how beautiful a woman is, women are women, she either feels chemistry, that certain somethin somethin, sexual tension or she doesn't.
Don't try to force it CJ or find the magic sauce, just be you. Be the best you can be, if that means getting in better physical shape or getting a better haircut or whatever do it! For YOU. Women will notice but do it for you.
It's been said here when a chick is into you, you could do handstands in the middle of Fifth Avenue in NYC and she will think it's hilarious!
Another woman not feeling it will think you are obnoxious and be turned off.
That's how genuine attraction and chemistry works IME anyway and what I have observed outside this forum IRL.
$.02
I didn't 'get there,' I have been posting about physical chemistry and energy from the beginning.I’m glad you got there in the end !!
Good looks TO HER.Game = good Looks.
fvck.I didn't 'get there,' I have been posting about physical chemistry and energy from the beginning.
Good looks TO HER.
Again it's subjective and it's also based on his natural vibe, how he carries himself, his voice, it's ALL related.
Nuff said.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Yes. Now we're getting slightly into the nuance which is something i've spoken about at length.Good looks TO HER.
this is the kind of BS that is rife on this forum.Having said that. Jayz and Beyonce in her prime. Jayz is objectively ugly and Beyonce is/ was objectively beautiful.
Yes he is a billionaire but she is also filthy rich so that evens each other out..
Beyonce could literally date any male model or pretty actor. Yet she choose Jayz. Why? Because he's a charismatic mofo!
So logically you can apply this to any social settings where the man and woman are somewhat equal. Pretty female waitress and ugly male cook. Pretty cashier and ugly store manager. Pretty student and ugly student.
You are a troll and the forum keeps feeding you so..oh well..
A few questions for youYes. Now we're getting slightly into the nuance which is something i've spoken about at length.
I'm very blackpilled, and I always say everyone is over a long enough timeline and with enough experience. There is always that 'looks threshold' (especially when talking about cold approach and especially on young girls in their prime) which without meeting, no amount of game is gonna move the needle. But I'm not half as pessimistic as my fellow blackpillers because i'm aware that there is some blatant subjectivity. I'm aware it means that I have to hit on maybe 100x more girls than my chad friends in order to bang some crazy hot young girl. Even if my 'game' is 10x better than his. That's just teh way it is. But i've done it! More than a handful of times! It's why I think of cold approach not only as a 'numbers game' but more searching for unicorns in my case!! i.e beautiful girls (to my tastes, such as the one I posted above), half my age, who are attracted to my not especially handsome self! They're hard to find! And learning more 'game' doesn't change a thing. But getting as good looking as possible and approaching in SERIOUS volume is what has worked for me lol
Not to say that of course there's not such a thing as objective beauty. A face that 98% of women would think of as gorgeous and would sleep with the man attached too it without him having to do anything remotely special. I've witnessed that too!! More than a handful of times lol