"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Rate this guys face plz

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Dude has 3 posts running asking us to rate dudes...

I rather rate women..even tho thats childish AF , its better than this ..
Why? What’s the problem with rating dudes looks..
We are on a dating discussion forum here.
Looks may account for 90% of women’s selection of men, for all we know.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I'm 5'8" and have an "X" physique. Imagine NFL linebacker. Probably the closest comparison and something I have been told I resemble since I was 12 or 13 because of my broad shoulders.
Thanks. I’m gonna have to make a cheat sheet on the members here to add context to their posts.

Is there such a thread with this info already?? I have seen a memeber location thread but not a stats one.

For example, I’ve gathered that Venom is possibly 6’5 tall and 200lbs + of muscle.
Which adds a lot of context to his Mode One strategy to me. I’m guessing he is a black dude also perhaps
 

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Why do you care so much about this?
I had to think about this question.
Because looks obvs matter. A LOT. For a guy to be a Don Juan type /be successful with women.
(im not talking just getting into one relationship as success here)

and game/personality very much Less so.
Like a very small slice of the pie imo.
Possibly only 10% factor of getting laid.

The major emphasis should be on Looksmaxxing.
I think Game strategies and personality are very much over discussed here. And it’s confusing not helpful.

that’s why I guess.
 

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Skull, jaw, hair, chin etc are a 7/10 = if his height is 175cm+. The 'bug' eyes may bring him down to a 6.
lol @ the bug eyes.
They are great eyes. V much heavy ‘Come to bed ‘ eyes or wicked thoughts kinda eyes.
That’s a better rating tho. I think him a solid 8 at least.
Cute/youthful/babyfaced guys generally slay IRL afaics. Women love that boyish youthful look and definitely love sexy eyes . 100%

the squinty Richard Gere eyes especially.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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lol @ the bug eyes.
They are great eyes. V much heavy ‘Come to bed ‘ eyes or wicked thoughts kinda eyes.
That’s a better rating tho. I think him a solid 8 at least.
Cute/youthful/babyfaced guys generally slay IRL afaics. Women love that boyish youthful look and definitely love sexy eyes . 100%

the squinty Richard Gere eyes especially.
Can you rate me via PM?
 

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I offer a unique perspective
You’re an intensely hypergamous and attractive woman. You’ve gone for, and because of your looks, have succeeded in getting alpha males, which is how it works. This is the opposite of unique.

the world needs more solid men.
Real meaning: “The world needs more high-status and attractive men.”
 

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You’re an intensely hypergamous and attractive woman. You’ve gone for, and because of your looks, have succeeded in getting alpha males, which is how it works. This is the opposite of unique.



Real meaning: “The world needs more high-status and attractive men.”
lmao :D:lol:
 

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You’re an intensely hypergamous and attractive woman. You’ve gone for, and because of your looks, have succeeded in getting alpha males, which is how it works. This is the opposite of unique.



Real meaning: “The world needs more high-status and attractive men.”

and of course our mutual friend is exaggerating the smv ratings listed . Obviously.
as what would such a perosn be doing on such a forum..:rolleyes:
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You are not having that issue my dear. So you are not as much of a standout as you think. Do you get laid at times? Sure. But you are WAY to weird about looks. Why? Because you don't have top tier looks. This is the rationale behind your obsession over looks. That is obvious AF.

Why wouldn't I be here? I offer a unique perspective and think the world needs more solid men.
lmao.
How do you know how much I get laid?
And how is putting up pictures of handsome men and rating them on a men’s pickup forum “weird “ .
I would think it’s HIGHLY relevant
And I notice it’s very much shied away from here for some bizarre reason.
As if Face doesn’t do almost all of the heavy lifting of attraction . Like you just reconfirmed with your example.

the opposite is weird AF in my world.
The exact ratings is the bit that is up for much discussion. As dudes here seem to live in a parallel universe where Dua Lipas partner , a former fashion model and actor is only a 7/10 in smv ( LMAO) :rofl::rofl::rolleyes::rolleyes: yeah surrrrre he is. Riiiight.

strip the celebrity, money and status away , a guy like Callum Turner STILL gets women that look like Dua Lipa. As he is tall dark and very handsome.
He’s at least a 9/10.
And 10/10 men like David Ghandy are so rare as to be outliers basically. So may as well exclude them.
So for all intents and purposes Turner is top tier.
He’s 6’2 and here he looks like the dictionary definition of a “Chad”. Lmao.

ONE woman saying “oh no he’s not type” means nothing. Some women will remark that about Clooney and Pitt ffs:rolleyes:
It means less than nothing actually.
it ain’t worth spit babe
If you catch my drift ..;):p:p:p
That’s about as useful as a fart in a spacesuit.

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a ‘nothing special ‘ guy , yesterday.
Feeling sorry for himself he only gets to Fvck chicks that look like Dua Lipa.
And not BE :cry::cry::cry:
 
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I wouldn't put much stock into men's ratings on other men. It would be like asking a vegan what the best cut of steak is.

I'd imagine even gay men have different taste than women do on other men.
 
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