"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Rapport w/in minutes

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I am wondering, in what ways to you guys quickly get in rapport with a woman? I mean deep rapport, as in telling each stuff that's beyond daily chit chat. It can be random women when you are sarging, or just women you know in general.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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cant do that with in minutes man

but simply just build a connection with her. find a common ground between you two. like a common interest or something. then just talk about that. generally after talking with her for a will you two will grow closer and closer as time goes on
 
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That's like saying, "How do you make a Thanksgiving turkey within minutes?" You can't do it, at least not in a way that's going to end very well.
 

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Go getta said:
cant do that with in minutes man...
True, women just don't operate that way. A guy can only get so far with rapport. After that it takes time to escalate rapport to comfort, from comfort to romance and from romance to intimacy.
 

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I meant those guys that seem to connect with women extremely fast, within 10 minutes of talking to them, can get them smiling and such.

But yeah, then tell me how you guys do it within a reasonable time.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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April_Infinite said:
I meant those guys that seem to connect with women extremely fast, within 10 minutes of talking to them, can get them smiling and such.
That's just basic rapport. It's all about gaining mutual agreement on a particular topic or two.
 

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So you are telling me that when you are trying to get into deep rapport with someone, you fish for a topic that both of you agree on?
 

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April_Infinite said:
So you are telling me that when you are trying to get into deep rapport with someone, you fish for a topic that both of you agree on?
Personally, I don't think that there is such a thing as deep rapport (at least not quickly). Rapport in itself is just gaining a basic comfort level when you initially meet someone. Why would a woman open up to you on a deep level if she has just met you?

Besides, if you have to fish for a topic to gain that initial, immediate comfort level, you're missing out on how to effectively engage a woman you've just met. Pay attention to where you are and what's going on around you, that's your in-road to gaining rapport.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Pay attention to where you are and what's going on around you, that's your in-road to gaining rapport.
Yes, that's very effective.

Making fun of the people around you can work if you don't over do it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Yes, that's very effective.

Making fun of the people around you can work if you don't over do it.
I'd be careful making fun of people, even doing it just a bit could make you seem insecure. And if the woman enjoys it, she may be the type of woman who regularly puts down others. Bad attitude and possible high maintenance.
 
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Yes, you can do it!! Here is an example - you have the same convictions/values/religious beliefs!! BAM!!! Instant connection!!
 

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The problem is getting those out into conversation smoothly. You can't just spurt out "Hey, so are you into Christianity?" at the beginning of the date or whatever.

And this is my problem, I'm asking you guys what you guys do to make smooth conversation with women.
 

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doing that pretty much puts the pulverable "I'm not getting any tonight" stamp on the date
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You can still make positive observations about people nearby. I started off making fun (which is easy), and this is still useful on people who obviously have no clue, but even then you can turn it around and chuck in a positive spin like, "But she's probably also a genius at playing violin or something."
 
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