"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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old_skoolr

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Just after an opinion. Have had some girls tell me they love me. Problem is I've never made a move on them. Theres 2 girls, 1 who I've worked with for 3 years and the other works at the cafe I go to, when I order coffee on my break.

Ive not made a move on either as its when Im working and Im a big believer in the saying "Dont **** where you eat." Now my question could these "ILY" be the epitome of friendzone? That even though I might want to make a move in the future that will hold me back? I still treat them like I would any other girl I'd be interested in. Would I have to break out of the friendzone if I changed my mind and wanted to make a move?

Just wanted to know any opinions or if anyone has had any similar expierience. Cheers.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Trailboss

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Next time one of them says it, give her the "Don't love me too much: I'm really a devil in disguise.."! Peak her curiosity and ride that wave wherever it takes ya...If your inclined enough to make the move...
 

old_skoolr

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haha not bad, they randomly drop it in between the random "*******" and "****" calls, so they know i love to **** stir them. Funny how womens minds work in that regard.
 

Krueg

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What makes you think you can get out of the friend zone now? Do you have some diabolical scheme that will all the sudden make her wet for you?

Please share your wisdom! :D

Its a lost cause, find fresh prey!
 

old_skoolr

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Krueg said:
What makes you think you can get out of the friend zone now? Do you have some diabolical scheme that will all the sudden make her wet for you?
Getting out of the friendzone is not my question. I'm flirty with both girls, I just dont act due to my beliefs of work relationships. My question is whether these girls that I flirt with, see me as a friend only. Or can they see me as more if I chose to make a move based on what was mentioned above.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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