"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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quick question -- Voicemails

Obsidian

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Hey y'all,
Should you ever leave a voicemail for a girl you #-closed but haven't actually gone on a date with yet? I know girls are really flaky and nervous about initiating phone calls.

I already called this one chick once and didn't get an answer. When I try a second time, I was wondering what to do if she doesn't answer again.

I can't remember if she has my # in her phone; I was a tad drunk at the time.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Randallpink83

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If I haven't even talked to her on the phone yet. Then no I wouldn't leave a voicemail... Can't imagine a girl calling back anyhow so "YOU" can setup a date. ...

Other then that though I believe big time in voicemails, lol.. No matter how trivial the phone call is I expect all my friends to leave a voicemail if they call me (they all know this).. surprisingly it cuts down on trivial calls.. In return I always leave voicemails... But only that circumstance where I haven't made phone contact with a girl yet, i wouldn't leave one. it would short change the interaction. And if you just left a voicemail and never tried calling again I would imagine that would be the end of it... and if you left one and then actually tried calling a few more times another day it could come off as needy.

Keep your chances open, don't leave a voicemail.
 

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Thanks for the advice, Randall. I think you're probably right.

Fortunately, I got ahold of her on my second attempt (2.5 hours after the first). Coffee date set for Tuesday. :up:
 
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