"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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quick question -- Voicemails

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Hey y'all,
Should you ever leave a voicemail for a girl you #-closed but haven't actually gone on a date with yet? I know girls are really flaky and nervous about initiating phone calls.

I already called this one chick once and didn't get an answer. When I try a second time, I was wondering what to do if she doesn't answer again.

I can't remember if she has my # in her phone; I was a tad drunk at the time.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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If I haven't even talked to her on the phone yet. Then no I wouldn't leave a voicemail... Can't imagine a girl calling back anyhow so "YOU" can setup a date. ...

Other then that though I believe big time in voicemails, lol.. No matter how trivial the phone call is I expect all my friends to leave a voicemail if they call me (they all know this).. surprisingly it cuts down on trivial calls.. In return I always leave voicemails... But only that circumstance where I haven't made phone contact with a girl yet, i wouldn't leave one. it would short change the interaction. And if you just left a voicemail and never tried calling again I would imagine that would be the end of it... and if you left one and then actually tried calling a few more times another day it could come off as needy.

Keep your chances open, don't leave a voicemail.
 
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Thanks for the advice, Randall. I think you're probably right.

Fortunately, I got ahold of her on my second attempt (2.5 hours after the first). Coffee date set for Tuesday. :up:
 
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