"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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quick question -- Voicemails

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Hey y'all,
Should you ever leave a voicemail for a girl you #-closed but haven't actually gone on a date with yet? I know girls are really flaky and nervous about initiating phone calls.

I already called this one chick once and didn't get an answer. When I try a second time, I was wondering what to do if she doesn't answer again.

I can't remember if she has my # in her phone; I was a tad drunk at the time.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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If I haven't even talked to her on the phone yet. Then no I wouldn't leave a voicemail... Can't imagine a girl calling back anyhow so "YOU" can setup a date. ...

Other then that though I believe big time in voicemails, lol.. No matter how trivial the phone call is I expect all my friends to leave a voicemail if they call me (they all know this).. surprisingly it cuts down on trivial calls.. In return I always leave voicemails... But only that circumstance where I haven't made phone contact with a girl yet, i wouldn't leave one. it would short change the interaction. And if you just left a voicemail and never tried calling again I would imagine that would be the end of it... and if you left one and then actually tried calling a few more times another day it could come off as needy.

Keep your chances open, don't leave a voicemail.
 
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Thanks for the advice, Randall. I think you're probably right.

Fortunately, I got ahold of her on my second attempt (2.5 hours after the first). Coffee date set for Tuesday. :up:
 
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