Background: There's a girl I like I keep seeing in the halls. We barely know each other, besides having practiced for a stage show. We didn't really talk to each other. The show ended a a couple of weeks ago. I keep seeing her in the halls and keep getting strong eye contact, and some quick hi's if we pass each other. I only see her once per day, in a crowded, stampeding hallway. I'm leaning toward stopping her, asking her how she's doing and (no transition) straight for the number. Any good/better ways of doing this? This is the most foolproof idea I have.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Quick Hall pickup
- Thread starter Dimehair
- Start date
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
jeffthechef
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never go straight to number close if you've never talked before...no matter how sure you are she may be interested...i wouldn't advise it
once you're nearby...say hi...ask her how's it going....a little kino of any sort...tell her you have to go bla bla and leave
THEN
the next time you see her....say hi...drop a line/joke/something interesting...ask her what she's doing this weekend...then say
(got this from a thread a while back)
“I need to get going, let me give you a call sometime…what’s your number?”
you're leaving so it's not as intrusive..."let me"=assume the sale..."what's your" rather than "can i have" ..demand don't ask
but of course you don't say it like a ****
MAKE SURE YOU STAY SILENT AFTER...if you don't get the number..move on of course
once you're nearby...say hi...ask her how's it going....a little kino of any sort...tell her you have to go bla bla and leave
THEN
the next time you see her....say hi...drop a line/joke/something interesting...ask her what she's doing this weekend...then say
(got this from a thread a while back)
“I need to get going, let me give you a call sometime…what’s your number?”
you're leaving so it's not as intrusive..."let me"=assume the sale..."what's your" rather than "can i have" ..demand don't ask
but of course you don't say it like a ****
MAKE SURE YOU STAY SILENT AFTER...if you don't get the number..move on of course
I saw the girl again today. It wasn't in the hall, it was during a free period. I saw her sitting with a friend and I sat at their table before I could stop myself. I didn't really talk though. I said a few things (not completely silent). Customary how are yous, even joined in the convo for few VERY brief minutes. I used my homework as crutch: a reason not to talk. The friend tried to include me in the conversation toward the beginning of the interaction, but after quick answers I went back to my book. I joined their conversation on and off, and came in with something I thought was interesting when they were both silent. They liked it, and their conversation picked up again. Even though they talked amongst themselves a lot, whenever I had something to say they both turned to me, even stopping whatever they were just talking about. Although they didn't ask me a lot of questions (which I liked), I felt that they wanted me to join in the conversation. I see myself as more talkative than I was today. Both girls now think of me as shy, which doesn't mean I'll hang myself, but I could have made a better impression. It might bebackwards rationalization, but the period before I stayed quiet the entire time in a class I usually goof in. Oh well. Live and learn.
coolf1r3
Don Juan
Haha, those three words have gotten me through some really tough times. I consider it my mantra and you should to. It'll keep you going in the toughest of times.Dimehair said:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
OTB
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Bro, that's absolutely amazing!Dimehair said:
That means that (unlike many other forum members on this site),
you're brain was somehow subconsiously re-wiring itself in order to help you get the pvssy without even thinking about it!
That's a huge advantage!
Someway, somehow, you were able to quickly remove the mental blocks that prevent man men from actually approaching the girl....
There's great hope for you later on in the game my brother
