"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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speedF

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so about a month ago, i got this girl's number at a coffee shop. i called her back, and we talked for a few mins and she had to go.

anyhow, i called her back like a week later and she didn't pick up. so i just never called her back again, i was starting to see someone else so i didn't care.

few days ago, i logged onto myspace. i just randomly saw her while i was browsing around and recognized her face and name. she looks very hot now. iwas thinking of messaging her? but is that too weird because i dont really know her?

i know it's stupid, but let me know.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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speedF said:
so about a month ago, i got this girl's number at a coffee shop. i called her back, and we talked for a few mins and she had to go.

anyhow, i called her back like a week later and she didn't pick up. so i just never called her back again, i was starting to see someone else so i didn't care.

few days ago, i logged onto myspace. i just randomly saw her while i was browsing around and recognized her face and name. she looks very hot now. iwas thinking of messaging her? but is that too weird because i dont really know her?

i know it's stupid, but let me know.
you could message her and say "dont i know you from somewhere"?
 

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I'd say to go with it. I've developed some very good relationships by doing that (I make it a rule to have met the person before I send them a message, but it seems as though you have that covered).

Really, just do it. It's not a big deal.
 

floydtheater07

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I'd say to go with it. I've developed some very good relationships by doing that (I make it a rule to have met the person before I send them a message, but it seems as though you have that covered).

Really, just do it. It's not a big deal. And of course man, good luck.
 

speedF

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yea, i added her, a few days ago and she didn't respond.
anyhow, it's kinda childish, but do you think i should just block her so she can't read my profile? or just forget it.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Boschy

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Man, sounds like a lost cause to me. Unless you can get her to remember you and see that she has some interest in you, then move on. But no harm in trying. You will have to be very specific about your meeting with her, and then be very specific about hooking up later. Think of a time, day, activity (coffee, lunch, art gallery) and see what happens, and get a phone number. Remember that most hot chicks get approached all the time by men. Since she met you, she's probably gotten more attention from other guys.
 

Socialreject

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penkitten said:
you could message her and say "dont i know you from somewhere"?
That one is a sucker for "yeah, that's why i don't go there anymore!". :)
 

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Well it won't hurt to try.

One question - when you first talked with her on the phone why did she end up having to go? My point is you should be the one to have to go - maybe you overcooked it a bit and turned it into a low IL situation from there.
 

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If she didn't give you the Myspace then you shouldn't be adding her. It's going to scream 'stalker' to the nth degree.

Give yourself more options.
 

speedF

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great, so i look like a tool now. thanks. i could block her now and make myself invisiable
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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