"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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question for those with multiple GF's

StevenR

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This is probably a silly question, but I am curious about something- all you DJ's who are dating multiple women, how do you deal with a day like today where they all expect something? I imagine they would all want to spend time with you today and you cannot be two places at once.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The DJ/real man spends this day (Feb 14th) with one special woman. Even if you're dating multiple women, pick the one that means the most to you. Yes the other girl's feelings will be devastated. If that bothers you then you shouldn't be dating multiple women, but if it doesn't, go ahead, pick one and drop the others. I would have forseen this problem a couple of weeks ahead of today and broken off relations with the runner up girls and decided to spend the day with the one girl I like the most.

The idea of dating multiple women is effieiciency, plate theory, keeping busy, and not developing oneitis. If you can date one woman at a time without succumbing to those negative factors,... then great. If you just like dating multiple women be sure to understand the pros and cons of both, see it from the girl's perspective as well. Imagine if the girl you were dating was dating/sleeping with another guy. Hmm?

I used to date multiple women, but now I'm dating just one, and I do flirt with other girls now since it's just dating and nothing serious. But when I want to committ, I stop my flirtatious behaviour with other girls and focus on only one.

It's really whatever works for you.
 

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I don't date multiple women, but I know some guys on here like STR8UP and a few others said they do. I just wondered what they actually did on a day like today where they are all gonna want his attentions, that's all.
 

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I date multiple girls . All the time . .

Thats because i wont be needy . And since i know i have other girls waiting for me i dont give a fvck what she's gonna do . I dont fall for her games .

But in this special day , yesterday , i stayed at home .
I didnt want to date any of these . As aussiegoat said you gotta spend this day with someone special . And noone of them is special .

I dont know whats gonna happen today :) . They all mad :crackup: .
 

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Carrying on with multiple girlfriends is a study in time management. For me, and seemingly with most guys who maintain multiple relationships, one of the girls tends to matter far more than the others. On days like Valentines I usually spend with my favorite.

With the others our relationships tend to be more sporadic. One is married and knows the relationship that I have with my favorite. Actually, I guess we are having an affair so there is an expectation that we not get together on Valentine’s Day. Of the more casual girlfriends it is an easy matter to just tell her something like, “Why don’t we get together on Friday night instead, so we can stay up all night.” For the most part though, Valentine’s Day is no big deal. With most women just a card and a hug and a kiss are enough, and it doesn’t even have to be on Valentine’s Day – like on the 12th or the 13th.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Are you guys truly dating these women? Doesn't that mean that there's some type of commitment? That they are special. Why date a woman or even worse multiple women who you don't believe is special anyway, isn't that a waste?
 

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I'm fvcking several women. I spent valentines day surfing, and later in the evening I let one of them make me dinner and give me a massage.
 

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how do you deal with a day like today where they all expect something?

Tell me about it. New Year's Eve was difficult, too. I have two girls, a hb7 who is a total afc over me and a hb9, who is a crazy bpd single mommie and amazing in bed. I have been spending these times with the 7 and mostly just dumping the 9, telling her to go off with one of the flock of AFC guys who are always after her. Both girls know about each other. The 9 has never been rejected by a guy before, and it drives her crazy. She didn't call me last night, so I imagine she had an AFC to entertain her. She did have a steady stream of guys stopping by yesterday to give her cards and flowers. Although I am, afaik, the one guy who is actually getting sex from her, she got no card or flowers from me. I send her off with the AFCs, because I know she'll be bored within a day or two and be calling me again. I never call either of these girls, btw, they call me. They each know they have to, because they are in competition with another girl.

So my plate-spinning v-day method would be to reject the hotter girl who never gets rejected and let that fvck with her head until she calls me in a day or two and throws herself at me in a desperate attempt at validation.
 

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later in the evening I let one of them make me dinner and give me a massage.
And you didn't even have sex with her?

and a hb9, who is a crazy bpd single mommie and amazing in bed
BPD!!!? Run Forrest..run! You know she has BPD and you are dating her? you are playing with fire dude. Reading your posts it is obvious you get off on this kind of risky behavior, but don't say I didn't warn you.

The 9 has never been rejected by a guy before
I am almost certain she is just telling you that to boost her ego. I would reject her if she has BPD and I knew about it.

She did have a steady stream of guys stopping by yesterday to give her cards and flowers
Although I am, afaik, the one guy who is actually getting sex from her
That is what she tells YOU anyway. Knowing how BPD works, I seriously doubt she is telling you the truth. BPD women live in their own world and their word is as good as...well it isn't. BPD women are the worst AW's and having sex with different men for them is validation of their own fragile messed up ego. That and she is incapable of real emotional attachment to any one guy.
 

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I have known her ten years, fwiw. She has been slvtty a long time, but now is into manipulating men without giving them sex. AFCs don't demand sex, she is just now figuring this out. But I do. I treat her like dirt, like a cheap wh0re who is only good for sex. After sex, I will often dump her off crying at her mom's house where she lives. Treating her badly fulfills a need she has, which is why she keeps calling me. Hot crazy b!tches usually need to be treated poorly.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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but now is into manipulating men without giving them sex
That's horrible, great sex is really the only thing BPD's are good for at all, and even then it is not worth it IMO

I treat her like dirt, like a cheap wh0re who is only good for sex.
Yep, that is how they like to be treated, messed up isn't it? The one I dated was really hot too, did professional modeling, most guys would have given their left, well, don't know if I am allowed to say it, but body part hehe, to have a chance to sleep with her.
I wondered why she wanted me and not someone rich and famous, but as you said their self esteem is completely messed up and they like men who treat them poorly. I just cannot do it, I am not that kind of guy. She needed someone who treated her like dirt for a good unstable dysfunctional relationship.
I was funny and ****y with her at first, and just casual with her, but after awhile she wore me down, made me fall in love with her before I knew what she was really like, and turned me into a total wbafc with her psycho mind games.

addendum:I think the "need" she has is that at some level she wants you to validate her, to start treating her like a princess. She probably thinks if she can turn you around and control you that will somehow make her feel better. Essentially she wants a challenge, she was likely abused at some point and you are like a proxy, where if you(or some other guy who treats her like dirt) validate her in the end it is the next best thing to her original abuser validating her. Of course if you actually do this, she will start treating YOU like dirt and lose interest until you act like a jerk again, because she is psycho. Actually trying to have a relationship with these women is a no-win situation. But take my advice as just personal experience/conjectures because I am not a psychologist .
 

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StevenR said:
And you didn't even have sex with her?
Actually, no I didn't. But I gained something much more valuable. I will be posting about this later. The focus of the post will have to do with taking advice about women from women. Anyway, I will have sex with her at the exact appropriate moment, no sooner no later. That was not the appropriate time.
 
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