"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Powersurgeon

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I already told her that if he's going to share time with the kids I have to meet him. Or better told, he's going to meet me. I'm a recovering AFC and so my thread reeks of betaness, but as a recovering chump now I know that I wouldn't invest in a LTR with a woman like my ex.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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He's probably an alright guy. And just as much of a chump as you were. As we all were.
 

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Yeah, there's nothing really that unusual about it. He's likely an AFC who either doesn't know or makes excuses for your ex's cheating and is "interested" in the kids bc he's sucking up to your ex (and not a dangerous pedophile). Don't let it drive you crazy.

I went through the exact same thing when I split w/ my ex - who I was still seeing daily bc of the kids - including wondering why her new admirer was so interested in the kids and telling her I thought he might be a pedophile. Shockingly, leading with accusing her of taking up with a pedophile made her less interested in listening when I came back with calmer requests (limit his interactions w/ the kids bc it can be confusing to them; see him when the kids are w/ me, etc.).
 

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Thank you

Eco-J said:
Yeah, there's nothing really that unusual about it. He's likely an AFC who either doesn't know or makes excuses for your ex's cheating and is "interested" in the kids bc he's sucking up to your ex (and not a dangerous pedophile). Don't let it drive you crazy.

I went through the exact same thing when I split w/ my ex - who I was still seeing daily bc of the kids - including wondering why her new admirer was so interested in the kids and telling her I thought he might be a pedophile. Shockingly, leading with accusing her of taking up with a pedophile made her less interested in listening when I came back with calmer requests (limit his interactions w/ the kids bc it can be confusing to them; see him when the kids are w/ me, etc.).
That's a very good advice. Yeah, I see this guy as a total AFC, and my ex being post wall or very close to it knows that she has to stick with this "nice guy", that buys her things and invites her to trips, etc.
 
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