I have a question about it. Do you need to be best friends as well as lovers to have a successful long term relationship? I know the friends word isn't very popular here but is combining the 2 the way to a successful LTR?
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
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Having had a few LTR's with girls I cared nothing for, and only one LTR that meant anything at all to me... I'd say this is definitely true.Answers said:I have a question about it. Do you need to be best friends as well as lovers to have a successful long term relationship? I know the friends word isn't very popular here but is combining the 2 the way to a successful LTR?
Yeah I know what you mean. They say opposites attract but I think that must just be a short term thing.DoctorLW said:Having had a few LTR's with girls I cared nothing for, and only one LTR that meant anything at all to me... I'd say this is definitely true.
Whats the difference? Is special friends not best friends and lovers in one?Francisco d'Anconia said:Best friends? Nah... Special friends, absolutely. It's a completely different type of relationship, it's a partnership.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
agreed, it goes beyond best friends.Francisco d'Anconia said:Best friends? Nah... Special friends, absolutely. It's a completely different type of relationship, it's a partnership.
Think about your best friend. How often have you woke up with him sweaty and sticky? Yeah, it's an extreme picture but you don't treat your girl like your best friend. Do you want your girl to treat you like her best friend? Are you going to sit with her on Sundays and watch entire seasons of "Sex In the City" on DVD instead of football? C'mon, you don't see a difference?Answers said:Whats the difference? Is special friends not best friends and lovers in one?
Maybe they don't have to be best friends but very good friends..
Plain and simple. Yes. I understand what FdA is saying about you don't wake up all sweaty and sticky next to your best friend... but I see it as the same concept.Answers said:Do you need to be best friends as well as lovers to have a successful long term relationship?
My girlfriend and me watch football on Sunday.Francisco d'Anconia said:Think about your best friend. How often have you woke up with him sweaty and sticky? Yeah, it's an extreme picture but you don't treat your girl like your best friend. Do you want your girl to treat you like her best friend? Are you going to sit with her on Sundays and watch entire seasons of "Sex In the City" on DVD instead of football? C'mon, you don't see a difference?![]()
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
That's just a friend thing (which is good), but when girlfriends want to be your best friend, it's a entirely different thing.comic_relief said:My girlfriend and me watch football on Sunday.
I think I choose to use the word "Best friends and then some."
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EDIT: Maybe it is just because I go after the tomboys.
how many guys honestly want to know everything a gal tells her best friend? how many want to know every detail about her? how many want to know every detail of every sexual encounter? the information would overload you!Francisco d'Anconia said:Question for all of the guys (no offence Pen), how many of you are willing to tell your girls all of the things that your best friend know about you? How about talking about all of the things that you talk about with your best friend? How many of you have told your best friends about SoSuave? How many of you have told your girls?
Believe me, if you are with a woman who expects to be your best friend, she'll want to know all of your dirt!!! Anything that you say can be held against you at some point during the relationship!!! Want proof? How many of you realized it was a good thing to divulge how many women you've slept with to your girl?
I can go on fellas but I'm telling you, treating your girl as your best friend is the worse thing you can do. She will appreciate you more if you create something special for her that is hers and only hers. She'll see it as intimacy and you'll see it as sanity.
Damn... It takes a girl to understand....penkitten said:how many guys honestly want to know everything a gal tells her best friend? how many want to know every detail about her? how many want to know every detail of every sexual encounter? the information would overload you!
it is best for both of you to have a special relationship that does not share every single detail that made you who you are... but a unique relationship that shares other things.
True..that is usually the progression and very important for AFC's with one-itis for their girl friends to understand.Rollo Tomassi said:To answer your other question, it's sex first then friendship. I know guys will come out of the woodwork now to say how shallow this sounds in some effort to claim some kind of moral high ground, but honestly, it's mutual desire that is the glue for a solid relationship.
Have you ever even had a successful LTR? I'm sincerely curious.LMS said:The "Friend" & "Partner" term and concept and the "Lover" term and concept was created and pushed, yes you guessed it, by the feminist movement
Truer words were never spoken.Señor Fingers said:I would venture to say though, that a truly successful relationship transcends friendship, wandering into the territory of family.
That is irrelevant, the only thing that matters are his principles.Señor Fingers said:Have you ever even had a successful LTR? I'm sincerely curious.
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.