"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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So I met this girl on a meetup event,and sent her a message after through the app saying that we should go out the week after since she was staying in a hostel very close to my place. She replied the day after agreeing to this, so next I setup a concrete date, time and place for a couple of days later. She says she cant that day, but made a counteroffer for the next one, wednesday. I said OK, no problem. The same happened on the wednesday, she said something came up and asked to meet up on thursday. Again, I agreed.

Obviously since I know a bit about the nature of girls in general, I suggested a place really close to me just in case she flaked. And guess what, not only did she flake but she didnt even send a message saying she couldnt or anything of the sort.

Now, I know this isnt exactly nothing new, but how usually does this happen to you as well? Is this disrespectul behaviour a normal ocurrence?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Within these past 3 weeks I had two girls.

Girl one - texted one night. Suggested a meet up I couldn't and she ghosted on my attempted reschedule (deleted text thread).

Later that week I get a hey and banged her.

Girl two - literally same deal but actually flaked on an arranged meet up I said "you ready?" Nothing.

later that week SAME thing and smashed it.

I'm noticing a pattern.
So no it's not possible and this back to back scenario has me thinking these were screens, I confirmed I wasn't a weirdo.
 
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You never accept a counter offer for 24 hours later. You should have countered her counter offer with a different day, to exercise backbone.

Sorry, pal. She nexted you for being weak.
 
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MrOctober said:
Within these past 3 weeks I had two girls.

Girl one - texted one night. Suggested a meet up I couldn't and she ghosted on my attempted reschedule (deleted text thread).

Later that week I get a hey and banged her.

Girl two - literally same deal but actually flaked on an arranged meet up I said "you ready?" Nothing.

later that week SAME thing and smashed it.

I'm noticing a pattern.
So no it's not possible and this back to back scenario has me thinking these were screens, I confirmed I wasn't a weirdo.
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Just because you banged, doesn't mean she respects you. Her #1 option could have flaked, or she could be screwing to spite another guy.

If a woman flakes, she's out. Low interest and disrespect. No exceptions.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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EyeBRollin said:
Just because you banged, doesn't mean she respects you. Her #1 option could have flaked, or she could be screwing to spite another guy.

If a woman flakes, she's out. Low interest and disrespect. No exceptions.
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I agree and this idea should be promoted here.

Neither one I've communicated with since. Sure I'll hear from one. I sit back. I field.

But respect is the foundation of any true dating / rs / fb dynamic couldn't agree more.
 
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EyeBRollin said:
You never accept a counter offer for 24 hours later. You should have countered her counter offer with a different day, to exercise backbone.

Sorry, pal. She nexted you for being weak.
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Lesson learned.
 
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MrOctober said:
Within these past 3 weeks I had two girls.

Girl one - texted one night. Suggested a meet up I couldn't and she ghosted on my attempted reschedule (deleted text thread).

Later that week I get a hey and banged her.
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How often does this really happen?
 
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Juanto said:
So I met this girl on a meetup event,and sent her a message after through the app saying that we should go out the week after since she was staying in a hostel very close to my place. She replied the day after agreeing to this, so next I setup a concrete date, time and place for a couple of days later. She says she cant that day, but made a counteroffer for the next one, wednesday. I said OK, no problem. The same happened on the wednesday, she said something came up and asked to meet up on thursday. Again, I agreed.

Obviously since I know a bit about the nature of girls in general, I suggested a place really close to me just in case she flaked. And guess what, not only did she flake but she didnt even send a message saying she couldnt or anything of the sort.

Now, I know this isnt exactly nothing new, but how usually does this happen to you as well? Is this disrespectul behaviour a normal ocurrence?
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When a girl counter offers sometimes it is good to let them know you are busy and you have options.

Saying yes to both of her counter offers told her you had no other plans that week and you were sitting by waiting for her.

Next time if a chick counter offers then cancels again and counteroffers a 2nd time you should be busy and tell her that doesn't work for me and i will talk to you later.
 
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Next time if a chick counter offers then cancels again and counteroffers a 2nd time you should be busy and tell her that doesn't work for me and i will talk to you later.
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Yes, I think I dropped the ball on this detail
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Juanto said:
How often does this really happen?
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Not often lol. Take they're advice. It was just ironic.

You can give her two strikes but really only if you know she's attracted and you'll get at the least the results I got. That's my opinion.

But a girl on the fence take they're advice.
 
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