"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Quantity or Quality?

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OK, so For most of my life I've had high standards for girls I've dated, (aimed for 8's and higher) but I'm realizing it's a tough fight, i'm no 10, but can pretty much get any girl who'se a 5 or 6. My question- has anyone here ever lowered their standards, and what was it like? Good? Basically, I'm your typical guy in a punk band- I could seriously be a hugh hefner of slightly ugly girls.

My ultimate dream, like any guy, would be to bed a 9 or a 10 every night, but the way I look at it, I could realistically, pull of bedding 5's or 6's every night, but would I want to? That... is the question... indeed, it is the question at hand.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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-HPNOTIQ-

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If you are asking the question of quantity or quality...I chose quality everytime.

Yeah...ugly women's p*ssy is just as soft and wet as an HB's..but, you lie around dogs enough..and you're liable to catch flees.

Meaning, once you lower your standards, people will notice. People will assume that your league of women contain only girls that couldn't make it to the majors. If you hang around 5-6 women..why would a 9-10 want you? Where's the desire in that?

Its kinda like that oldschool movie "Can't Buy Me Love".

When you date HBs, are around HBs, and connect with HBs...other HBs will notice..and you will become the object of their desire too.

Yea..5-6 women are good here and there for an occasional FB..but don't settle bro.
 

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Set your standards high m8...they maybe hard at the beginning, but when you "get it", your gonna get it good...I myself have decided to set my standard high, rather than having lots of 5-6s around me...right now im standing in front of a 100% mission impossible, a hb 10 with a 100 mile queue of AFC admirers, and a boyfriend...but I hang in there, cuz I know, that eventually, if I get it with her, im gonna get it good...
 

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"Settling" or "lowering your standards" is an indication that you hold your own value lower than that of the "HBs".

If for some bizarro reason a slightly ugly girl REALLY turns you on (besides the fact that she has a pvssy and you're desperate...and YES I've had this happen), then I'm not saying don't sleep with her, but don't start valuing p00n more than your own self-esteem.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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why lowering your standards when your only gonna feel bad about it later...but that's just one guys opinion:eek:
 

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fvck all this man, if your goal is to find a girl of your dreams and for a LTR, then go with what that person has to offer. If you are only looking to Fvck, try for HB 9s and 10s. You CAN find happiness in a not so attractive woman, caz for LTR it goes farther than just looks.
 

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i feel much better with quality. I like the challege of getting the best looking girls, even if it is harder it is so much more rewarding when other people see your accomplishments

PS this isnt the only reason haha
 

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Come on, some of you materialistic losers should admit all you want is a trophy girlfriend that you can spend your money on and show her off to your friends.
 

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D@MN-IT, I WANT IT ALL!!!!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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once you lower your standards, people will notice.
Not true. Women have a way different perception of what a beautiful woman looks like. All that matters is if they see you with a woman period.

As for your original question: quantity first, then quality. When you find a quality woman who's going to be around for a while, you can drop the rest of them.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Originally posted by Desdinova
Not true. Women have a way different perception of what a beautiful woman looks like. All that matters is if they see you with a woman period.

As for your original question: quantity first, then quality. When you find a quality woman who's going to be around for a while, you can drop the rest of them.
Agreed
 
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