"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Pussification is alive and kicking on facebook

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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horaholic

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Holy Christ! I should start a group: "Men who wish they had vaginas."
 

DJinTraining06

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lol. facebook is horrible. Everyone I know puts their every thoguht on there its pathetic. Isn't anyone private anymore? People tell every little detal about their day, every day. They say everythign their feeling all the time with the expectation that all their "friends" will comment on their comments. It's creating an attention ***** society.
 

HeyPachuco!

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FAIL!

Many times I've been close to starting epic rants on Facebook about this, but then I quickly realise it's not worth it and I'll be bombarded with pussification comments. Notice how everyone is joining "fan" pages identicle to their emotions? Bahahaah! like, " I raved, fell in love, smiled and got my heart broken in 2009 "

Me on the other hand, I join fan pages of things I like doing or funny sh!t, not these fvcking emotional emosh bandwagon pages which contradict fb society. Facebook Staff has effed up privacy settings, NOTHING is actually private. I am purposely on there as it is a resource for me. Pics are private thats good enough for me.

I recently saw a girl go from "Single" to "In a relationship" EXACTLY 4 MINUTES LATER to "No longer in a relationship" LOL and her joining group advocating that ALL MEN WHERE BASTARDS Lmao.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Haven't updated my facebook page in 2 years. It was fun in highschool and for the first couple years it was out... Now it's just lame.

You see people getting fired, getting their job applications rejected, and getting arrested/sued due to stuff on facebook.

My past employer would look up job applicants on facebook before hiring...

Just thinking about facebook makes me gag.
 

synergy1

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facebook has been a great tool for keeping up with old friends. Aside from someone actually seeing the profile, there are enough privacy settings to keep employers out. But if they want to see a bunch of Machiavelli quotes, and some random rants about house flipping they can be my guest.
 

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This is too funny, from the second link:

This group is for the guys who still believe in being a gentlemen. For those who can open a door, surprise her with flowers, who calls her beautiful instead of hot, or will stay awake just to watch her sleep. For the guys who want to show her off to the world when she is in her sweats, who will hold her hand in front of your friends, who will constantly reminds her of how much you care and how lucky you are to have her, the one who can turn to his friends and say..."that's her."
And then, the UPDATE:

New posters please keep in mind that his group is not a dating service. Nor a group to tell everyone how wonderful you are. This is a group for discussing being a gentlemen, the lack of them, or other such topics. I will be deleting any posts that are either A. trying to use this group as some sort of dating service or B.mindlessly posting to tell us your a gentleman.
-Jag
:crackup:

So those who join and praise women - do so in the hope of getting a girl. Who would have thought. It's just Chump Dating Central.

And what's with the rule of no "mindlessly posting to tell us your a gentleman"? Wasn't that the whole point of the group, to talk about how great you are while other men are dirtbags? Seems the group leader wants a very narrow group: one where you just constantly praise women, without actually trying to do anything with them or showing off yourself. Wonder how many will agree with that.
 

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Okay, I have to revise my view of the second forum linked to in the OP. It seems there are many men who join there with a non-AFC attitude. Just look at this discussion:

OP:

How many guys on here can actually say, without a shadow of a doubt within their own minds, that they have never actually done anything terrible to a woman they loved?

Think of it as if, heaven forbid, your ex's actually could see what you write on here. Would they agree with you? Would all of them (yes ALL of them) say that you were a guy who actually cares about the girl he is with? Or even girls in general?
So you'd expect the posters to fall over themselves in self-chastising. But no, the first three replies look like this:

Well I haven't had many girlfriends but I can honestly say I've always been the perfect gentleman with women. And gotten **** in return.
Women don't want a perfect gentleman. They want an alpha male who will make them moan like the ***** they are.
My experience has proven to me, multiple times, that John and Jake have it right. Maybe we should start a group for men who have been ****ed over (pun intended) by these supposedly wonderful and sensitive women. It would be the largest group on Facebook, no doubt.
Then the women in the group (Wasn't it supposed to be for men? What's this?) call them "sexist pigs."
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Nexus Polaris

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What's with the first picture on the feminist page? I don't think that means equality. Last time I checked, that was the symbol for hermaphrodite.
 

(JJ)

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the first one listed "6 out of however many members," and showed their pictures. all 6 of them were on my friends list.

i smell a new years resolution involving facebook...
 

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BTW, a lot of that stuff works well if you're talented enough to pull it off.

But if you're corny about it you will fail and look desperate.
 

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LMAO!! I opened that first link and saw one of the members is an ex roommate! Fits him perfectly
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I don't think there's anything wrong with the first one. I wouldn't join it personally, but don't think there's anything wrong with caring about women. There's room for a sensible DJ to genuinely care about women. I mean don't you guys want your own sisters to be with a man that cares about her? Or your own mothers for that matter?

As for the 2nd one, pretty lame, but to each his own.

The 3rd one is just disgusting. Nothing is worse than militant male feminists. These guys are psychologically castrated. Why don't they just finish the job with a physical castration and become geldings.
 

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The first one?
This is for any guy who puts a girl before himself
I care about girls, too, but God damn!

Where's the "I was a gentleman who cared about my girl, till she fvcked an alpha scumbag." How many million guys would be in THAT group?
 

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horaholic said:
The first one? I care about girls, too, but God damn!

Where's the "I was a gentleman who cared about my girl, till she fvcked an alpha scumbag." How many million guys would be in THAT group?
maybe someone should start it!
 

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I wonder how many women have felt compelled to start FB groups called "Women who really care about guys"?

Beta feminine identification game, nothing more.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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