"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This girl I'm interested doesn't text people back, when I asked why all she replied with "Don't worry about it". I kept asking why and she answered with the same thing over and over to the point she got pissed and said, "Don't ****ing worry about it!" After that I told her no, she'll hate me for it, but I will continue to worry about it.

After some thought I realized I shouldn't keep pushing someone to open up so I sent and apology text.

I guess my question is, how bad did I mess up? And can this be fixed? She keeps her emotions to herself and I want her to open up to me.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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This person is not worth your time or effort.
 

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jtlancer said:
This person is not worth your time or effort.
Yeah, it probably is for the best. I'll next her, she's so far in her shell I think she's lost.
 

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I suppose you'll figure out later. Focus on getting better right now man, you need it. Girls come 2nd, but that doesn't mean you dont focus on girls.
 

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Theminatar said:
This girl I'm interested doesn't text people back, when I asked why all she replied with "Don't worry about it". I kept asking why and she answered with the same thing over and over to the point she got pissed and said, "Don't ****ing worry about it!" After that I told her no, she'll hate me for it, but I will continue to worry about it.
Stop making her seem like she's the prize. Your constant questioning of her not answering texts is just you stroking her ego without you knowing it. It's giving her more power and making you look weaker at the same time by making her feel more important than she really is.
After some thought I realized I shouldn't keep pushing someone to open up so I sent and apology text.
Apologize for what??? She using a cuss word at you?? she should be the one apologizing to you! You totally played this wrong.

NEVER APOLOGIZE TO A WOMAN EVER AGAIN! It's a basic rule that if you didn't know by now then now you know. It doesn't make you attractive it makes you weak. Women like men that don't apologize to anybody and are accountable for their own actions.

The only thing you will get with apologizing to women is being seen by women as a weak nice guy.
I guess my question is, how bad did I mess up? And can this be fixed? She keeps her emotions to herself and I want her to open up to me.
Do the opposite of what everyone & you do with her. You are probably not the first dude to try to get her to open up. With women the guys that win are those that are "different."

I would try the following tactics

1. show sexual interest in her: call her sexy, talk about you two kissing, get her to picture you two together, try to get her wet.
2. neg her and break her down: so you tried being nice to her like everybody else and that didn't work. Try to the opposite.

I would try one of the two tactics above but don't take this gal too seriously. Use her as an experiment but don't put too much effort.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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f283000 said:
Stop making her seem like she's the prize. Your constant questioning of her not answering texts is just you stroking her ego without you knowing it. It's giving her more power and making you look weaker at the same time by making her feel more important than she really is.

Apologize for what??? She using a cuss word at you?? she should be the one apologizing to you! You totally played this wrong.

NEVER APOLOGIZE TO A WOMAN EVER AGAIN! It's a basic rule that if you didn't know by now then now you know. It doesn't make you attractive it makes you weak. Women like men that don't apologize to anybody and are accountable for their own actions.

The only thing you will get with apologizing to women is being seen by women as a weak nice guy.

Do the opposite of what everyone & you do with her. You are probably not the first dude to try to get her to open up. With women the guys that win are those that are "different."

I would try the following tactics

1. show sexual interest in her: call her sexy, talk about you two kissing, get her to picture you two together, try to get her wet.
2. neg her and break her down: so you tried being nice to her like everybody else and that didn't work. Try to the opposite.

I would try one of the two tactics above but don't take this gal too seriously. Use her as an experiment but don't put too much effort.
I'll definitely try tactic #2, and while negging I'll just completely and blatantly ignore her.
 

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Theminatar said:
I'll definitely try tactic #2, and while negging I'll just completely and blatantly ignore her.
No dude, I highly doubt that will work. She needs to have interest in you for that to have some effect. Combine the two "tactics".
By the way, #2 doesn't say anything about ignoring.
 
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Yeah, I don't know how negs are going to help you at this point. You've already come off as needy through your constant texting - if you start negging her or showering her with sexual innuendos you will just be confirming your desperateness. Your best bet at this point is to try and forget about her. She needs to see that you have your own sh1t going on. She needs to see you talking to other girls having a good time. She may never come begging for your affection, but if that's the case, you probably didn't have a chance anyways. It's better to cut and run with your dignity intact than to let her think that she owns you.

Good luck out there.
 

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Pushed a girl to far...

...Down the stairs? :kick:

Seriously though, as others have said, just back off for awhile and start going out with other women. Either she will wonder what is up, or she won't. Either way it's not a big deal.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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All ready decided I'm done with her. I went to school today and talked to a friend of mine.
 
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