"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Pushed a girl to far

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This girl I'm interested doesn't text people back, when I asked why all she replied with "Don't worry about it". I kept asking why and she answered with the same thing over and over to the point she got pissed and said, "Don't ****ing worry about it!" After that I told her no, she'll hate me for it, but I will continue to worry about it.

After some thought I realized I shouldn't keep pushing someone to open up so I sent and apology text.

I guess my question is, how bad did I mess up? And can this be fixed? She keeps her emotions to herself and I want her to open up to me.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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This person is not worth your time or effort.
 

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jtlancer said:
This person is not worth your time or effort.
Yeah, it probably is for the best. I'll next her, she's so far in her shell I think she's lost.
 

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I suppose you'll figure out later. Focus on getting better right now man, you need it. Girls come 2nd, but that doesn't mean you dont focus on girls.
 

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Theminatar said:
This girl I'm interested doesn't text people back, when I asked why all she replied with "Don't worry about it". I kept asking why and she answered with the same thing over and over to the point she got pissed and said, "Don't ****ing worry about it!" After that I told her no, she'll hate me for it, but I will continue to worry about it.
Stop making her seem like she's the prize. Your constant questioning of her not answering texts is just you stroking her ego without you knowing it. It's giving her more power and making you look weaker at the same time by making her feel more important than she really is.
After some thought I realized I shouldn't keep pushing someone to open up so I sent and apology text.
Apologize for what??? She using a cuss word at you?? she should be the one apologizing to you! You totally played this wrong.

NEVER APOLOGIZE TO A WOMAN EVER AGAIN! It's a basic rule that if you didn't know by now then now you know. It doesn't make you attractive it makes you weak. Women like men that don't apologize to anybody and are accountable for their own actions.

The only thing you will get with apologizing to women is being seen by women as a weak nice guy.
I guess my question is, how bad did I mess up? And can this be fixed? She keeps her emotions to herself and I want her to open up to me.
Do the opposite of what everyone & you do with her. You are probably not the first dude to try to get her to open up. With women the guys that win are those that are "different."

I would try the following tactics

1. show sexual interest in her: call her sexy, talk about you two kissing, get her to picture you two together, try to get her wet.
2. neg her and break her down: so you tried being nice to her like everybody else and that didn't work. Try to the opposite.

I would try one of the two tactics above but don't take this gal too seriously. Use her as an experiment but don't put too much effort.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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f283000 said:
Stop making her seem like she's the prize. Your constant questioning of her not answering texts is just you stroking her ego without you knowing it. It's giving her more power and making you look weaker at the same time by making her feel more important than she really is.

Apologize for what??? She using a cuss word at you?? she should be the one apologizing to you! You totally played this wrong.

NEVER APOLOGIZE TO A WOMAN EVER AGAIN! It's a basic rule that if you didn't know by now then now you know. It doesn't make you attractive it makes you weak. Women like men that don't apologize to anybody and are accountable for their own actions.

The only thing you will get with apologizing to women is being seen by women as a weak nice guy.

Do the opposite of what everyone & you do with her. You are probably not the first dude to try to get her to open up. With women the guys that win are those that are "different."

I would try the following tactics

1. show sexual interest in her: call her sexy, talk about you two kissing, get her to picture you two together, try to get her wet.
2. neg her and break her down: so you tried being nice to her like everybody else and that didn't work. Try to the opposite.

I would try one of the two tactics above but don't take this gal too seriously. Use her as an experiment but don't put too much effort.
I'll definitely try tactic #2, and while negging I'll just completely and blatantly ignore her.
 

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Theminatar said:
I'll definitely try tactic #2, and while negging I'll just completely and blatantly ignore her.
No dude, I highly doubt that will work. She needs to have interest in you for that to have some effect. Combine the two "tactics".
By the way, #2 doesn't say anything about ignoring.
 
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Yeah, I don't know how negs are going to help you at this point. You've already come off as needy through your constant texting - if you start negging her or showering her with sexual innuendos you will just be confirming your desperateness. Your best bet at this point is to try and forget about her. She needs to see that you have your own sh1t going on. She needs to see you talking to other girls having a good time. She may never come begging for your affection, but if that's the case, you probably didn't have a chance anyways. It's better to cut and run with your dignity intact than to let her think that she owns you.

Good luck out there.
 

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Pushed a girl to far...

...Down the stairs? :kick:

Seriously though, as others have said, just back off for awhile and start going out with other women. Either she will wonder what is up, or she won't. Either way it's not a big deal.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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All ready decided I'm done with her. I went to school today and talked to a friend of mine.
 
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