"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Pursuing another mans woman...?

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What a conundrum! She wants you but she wants her b/f! - and does not want to leave any of you - I say pull a train on this ho!!!!

It is not up to you so quit worrying about it. You are not going to leave her on principle, are you? So that leaves the decision solely in her hands, doesn't it?

Just don't pursue her as if she is worthy! You are falling in love with her already, aren't you? Stop it!!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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nah its not love, im very jaded when it comes to love. It takes alot for me to even consider being in love with someone, it makes me sick how people use that word with each other as if its just another word. The reason its such a problem for me is that ive been hookin up with random chicks lately even if their personality is horrible. Its just that there are a variety of things i look for in a girl and she has a large majority of them, I dont want something potentially good to waste away without at least putting some effort into trying to get her. I've put effort into useless b!tches for so long, I at least owe it to myself to put an effort into someone who is worth my time for a change.
 

elvis aint dead yet

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The biggest concern I see with you is, you might not be in love with this girl, but you are consistently finding ways to hang out with her, talk to her on the phone, spend time with her and on and on.

You even stated that she's the kind of girl you are looking for.

You might not be in love, but you have gone beyond just wanting a ONE NIGHT STAND or a FRIEND WITH BENEFITS.

My question for you is,

Why are you persuing a girl who said

"SHE NEVER CHEATED ON HER BOYFRIEND," and then basically proceeded to hook up with you?

You already hooked up, why are you persuing this relationship even further?
 
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She can't be that good, if she is seeing you and has a boyfriend! Huh?? Doesn't sound like a good woman to me. I know, I know, 'she's cute!!
 

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I'm actually not the one finding ways to hang out, I was actually told last night that she is callin my friends gf all the time asking to hang out with all of us even tho its me she cares about. I have yet to call her which is what seems to be the problem for me. If I dont talk to her all that often I have no way of knowing whats goin on in the meantime.

Why are you persuing a girl who said

"SHE NEVER CHEATED ON HER BOYFRIEND," and then basically proceeded to hook up with you?
Well I like the fact that she never cheated, but at the same time she openly admitted she wanted to be with me and that it was a problem. It was only after I told her I felt the same that stuff happened so I mean its not like she is doing this to be mean to her bf (altho that is an unfortunate effect anyways) we just cant help the way we feel. Up until last night she wasnt aware that I wasnt doing this for fun, I told her that I hooked up with her because I wanted to and because its something I had wanted to do from day one and the same goes for her.

She confused and I am just gonna give her time to figure out what she wants. I do this because sometimes when you meet random girls you happen to just come across one who stands above all the rest and she just happens to be one. I am pursuing her because we just really click well together and I owe it to myself to at least try to be with her. I can tell its what we both want but I understand she cant just dump a boyfriend shes been with for over a year without knowing with 100% certainty that things with me would work out.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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