Protests in France

[Spaz]

I take it the nail painting did not help calm you down? How about a glass of wine with your cats?

It is clear that I am trying to get something we agree on, by my adding clarifying elements to your statements.

It is also clear you just want to argue, as you are not interested in further improving upon that statement.

There are elements of truth in your statement, however statement 2 suggests that some action has already been taken towards permanent devaluatuon (This suggestion is false). This is why I changed "action" to "intent".

Then I added the actual act of devaluation (printing) to the end.

Is there something you disagree with here?

My statement can either be true or false, saying it's true then changing is as a false is a deceitful tactic used by liars.

Is that a yes or a no to the truthfulness of my statement below ?

Hurry up and stop with the dilly-dallying tactics. You had a whole day to come up with lies to counter this truth.

The devaluation of currency done by China is to spur growth via cheaper exports.

The printing of more money is the consequences of that action.

The only one here using his feelings to influence the way he thinks is you.

Or you're slow minded to comprehend simple economic mechanism lmaoooo

 

[user43770]

Of what? Be specific.

I was referring to your statement that if everyone was poor, there would be no corruption.

Bull**** statement #1. This is a strawman fallacy. Which liberal advocated making everyone poor?

You didn't say it, but you implied it. You're dodging it now, as every liberal does.


No, you made a false statement when you said "great many" people are gaming the welfare system. This is an anecdotal fallacy.

Please tell me how this is a fallacy. Where do you live? Do you not know someone that's gaming the system? I know of many.

This is Bull**** statement #2. Here you imply that anyone who thinks America shouldn't socialize the rich feels that way out of jealousy.

I never said America should pay for the rich, only that she shouldn't pay for the parasitic, poor underclass. Especially when people like you advocate open borders.

Responses in bold.

 

[EyeBRollin]

1. Strawman fallacy - misrepresentating your opponents argument to make it easier to attack. No implication or statement made from me about poor vs. corruption. Only rich vs. corruption was mentioned. This is lie #1.

2. Lie #2. Poor was never mentioned. You assume me attacking the corrupt wealthy is an endorsement of “making society poor.” Your argument again is a strawman.

3. Anecdotal fallacy - using a personal experience instead of sound scientific evidence. Your question directed at me is designed to overestimate the probability of such occurrences in the welfare system. Rather than provide data, you assume that if one witnesses a single case of fraud, it must be widespread.

4: Really? Let’s see: Do you support the Republican tax bill?

 

[wifehunter]

Come on guys...remember who the enemy is....the banks.

 

[user43770]

1. Strawman fallacy - misrepresentating your opponents argument to make it easier to attack. No implication or statement made from me about poor vs. corruption. Only rich vs. corruption was mentioned. This is lie #1.

2. Lie #2. Poor was never mentioned. You assume me attacking the corrupt wealthy is an endorsement of “making society poor.” Your argument again is a strawman.

3. Anecdotal fallacy - using a personal experience instead of sound scientific evidence. Your question directed at me is designed to overestimate the probability of such occurrences in the welfare system. Rather than provide data, you assume that if one witnesses a single case of fraud, it must be widespread.

4: Really? Let’s see: Do you support the Republican tax bill?

You fvcker. You're gonna make me get on my laptop.

 

[user43770]

1. Strawman fallacy - misrepresentating your opponents argument to make it easier to attack. No implication or statement made from me about poor vs. corruption. Only rich vs. corruption was mentioned. This is lie #1.

2. Lie #2. Poor was never mentioned. You assume me attacking the corrupt wealthy is an endorsement of “making society poor.” Your argument again is a strawman.

3. Anecdotal fallacy - using a personal experience instead of sound scientific evidence. Your question directed at me is designed to overestimate the probability of such occurrences in the welfare system. Rather than provide data, you assume that if one witnesses a single case of fraud, it must be widespread.

4: Really? Let’s see: Do you support the Republican tax bill?

1. You implicitly stated that if everyone were poor, there would be no corruption. What do you think that means?

2. You mentioned the poor, per number 1. Obviously, socialism makes a society poor. It's been proven many times. People like you seem to think that if there is a mix of it with capitalism, everything will be ok.

3. Not sure where you live. Maybe you don't see grown men standing around a store there?

 

[Fzatf]

1. You implicitly stated that if everyone were poor, there would be no corruption. What do you think that means?

2. You mentioned the poor, per number 1. Obviously, socialism makes a society poor. It's been proven many times. People like you seem to think that if there is a mix of it with capitalism, everything will be ok.

3. Not sure where you live. Maybe you don't see grown men standing around a store there?

We already do have a mix of socialism with capitalism in the USA. Social Security and Medicare help the elderly and disabled survive when they are no longer able to be entirely self sufficient. The military is funded by the people and also demonstrates socialism within a system that is driven by capitalism.

Partial socialism can work so long as primary market forces are capitalistic. Unchecked capitalism leads to vast income inequality and monopolies as a minority hold the wealth and the majority are left with scraps. Requiring a minimum wage that allows workers to thrive helps ensure they can afford the goods that keep the economy moving.

 

[EyeBRollin]

1. You implicitly stated that if everyone were poor, there would be no corruption. What do you think that means?

People who repeat lies are called liars. Rather than address my rebuttal, you repeat the lie.

2. You mentioned the poor, per number 1. Obviously, socialism makes a society poor. It's been proven many times. People like you seem to think that if there is a mix of it with capitalism, everything will be ok.

Repeating lie #2 again as your premise. Link where I mentioned the poor and corruption.

3. Not sure where you live. Maybe you don't see grown men standing around a store there?

Not sure why location is relevant. I do live in New Jersey - the wealthiest state in the US. We’re more than generous with social programs here. I’m sure you live in one of those ****hole red states.

 

[EyeBRollin]

3. Not sure where you live. Maybe you don't see grown men standing around a store there?

And of course you dodged the Republican tax bill. Do you support it?

 

[user43770]

And of course you dodged the Republican tax bill. Do you support it?

Nope.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Macron flees from angry mob attacking his office. What a pvssy.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1P00KG

 

[Spaz]

Macron flees from angry mob attacking his office. What a pvssy.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1P00KG

He's stupid and an entitled little b1tch that's more worried about rich corporations butt fvcking him.

He should not tax diesel for public transport, assuage the general public, gain support to revamp other needed reforms.

He should just increase diesel tax only for industrial usage and heavy transportation because they can afford it.

 

[wifehunter]

You guys should watch this. History is repeating, minus the beheadings.

Macron should be thankful, he still has his.

 

[Spaz]

You guys should watch this. History is repeating, minus the beheadings.

Macron should be thankful, he still has his.

Nah. He's just plain stupid.

There's already a precedent in other less develop countries that just float their fuel price and some even subsidise it to placate the general public.

They then tax rich companies using industrial fuel.

 

[wifehunter]

Nah. He's just plain stupid.

There's already a precedent in other less develop countries that just float their fuel price and some even subsidise it to placate the general public.

They then tax rich companies using industrial fuel.

How does that work, in a global depression?

 

[Spaz]

How does that work, in a global depression?

What depression ?

Last internal report I got was that world growth was at 3% plus and that was 2 months ago.

 

[wifehunter]

What depression ?

Last internal report I got was that world growth was at 3% plus and that was 2 months ago.

You might want to get a second opinion, or even 5, on that. Just to insure against human biases or errors.

 

[Spaz]

You might want to get a second opinion, or even 5, on that. Just to insure against human biases or errors.

MNC internal reporting on world economy actually reflects what's actually on the ground rather then biased Govt reports lmao

 

[wifehunter]

MNC internal reporting on world economy actually reflects what's actually on the ground rather then biased Govt reports lmao

I get news from multiple sources.

 

[Spaz]

I get news from multiple sources.

Don't tell me it's from an entity that deals in conspiracy...