"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Ive sprinted all summer long dude, i had a conditioning period for football but ive seen no results besides definition in my calves lol. Would low intense cardio help me loose fat not muscle?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I'm sorry, but there is some completely terrible advice in this thread.

The last one was the last straw.
Low intensity cardio doesn't lead to muscle loss, but high intensity does?
NEITHER makes you lose muscle if you eat properly and don't do it on an empty stomach.
If you're really fat, you do hiit, but if you're in good shape, you do low intensity? With what logic?

What's the problem with the getting started post?
5-6 meals isn't difficult. A protein shake with a piece of fruit could constitute a meal in the worst case scenario.
Look up a program by Joe Defranco - Westside for Skinny Bastards. It's a good starter program for building muscle. The other guy's isn't bad either but not enough compound lifts for my liking.
Also look up Rippetoe's 5x5 program.
 

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You guys are giving me alot of different advice and im getting confused fast, Im sticking with the " where to start" post, ill just learn how to deadlift properly, I want to loose fat, HIIT or low intensity cardio for 2-3 miles?
 

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MrS - Running doesn't lead to muscle loss? I'm pretty sure it slows down your training quite a bit for building muscle.

An excellent guide provided by Warboss
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114618

HandyAndy...I had a 2000 calorie diet with ten minutes of cardio 3-4 times a week at 10 minutes. I lost about fifty pounds in five months, I did medium to low intensity cardio. BUT what i focused on were my big three. Incline bench, Squat, Deadlift. I did a three day split and followed routines given to me by Warboss and Effort. With a similar diet to what was said earlier in this post

Deadlifts are awesome - but they aren't going to be easy. they are going to be hell, and you will love it haha. Good luck to you
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Thats good for you Itallion Stallion, did you just run on the treadmill or what? Im following Efforts post now because I think its best for me, but what kind of running wont lead to muscle loss, or would that happen with any type of cardio?
 

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I'll try not to give you advice, instead I'll just tell you what worked for me personally.

When I was really leaning out, I was doing this:

1. The Where to Start routine, more or less.

2. Cardio 4-5x per week. This constituted a 30 minute interval run/walk. I'd start off by walking for two minutes, then run for one minute, walk for two, run for one, etc etc etc until i hit 30 minutes.

3. Occasionally I'd mix this up with some sprints: Pick a point 40 feet away, sprint there and back facing the same direction(harder), I did this 8 times in roughly 1 minute. I'd repeat this 3 times, by the end I was lying on the ground about to throw up almost every time.

4. My diet consisted of chicken, tuna, vegetables, 6 eggs per day, all the vitamins and other goodies as well each day, every few days I'd have a steak or fish or something. My diet was a little low in calories/fats which stopped me from putting on some serious muscle, though I was able to get my numbers up quite high regardless. I also drank green tea religiously. Oatmeal was also a mainstay in my diet then. Essentially it was a high protein, mod.high carb, sadly low fats.

That's from my personal experience only, no "general" information.
 

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MrS said:
I'm sorry, but there is some completely terrible advice in this thread.

The last one was the last straw.
Low intensity cardio doesn't lead to muscle loss, but high intensity does?
NEITHER makes you lose muscle if you eat properly and don't do it on an empty stomach.
If you're really fat, you do hiit, but if you're in good shape, you do low intensity? With what logic?
Well any form of cardio in itself is catabolic to some level whether minor or not. The idea is to eat properly to minimise it, that's all. But yes low intensity does less likely lead to catabolism in general, if you do it on an empty stomach first thing then you tap into fat stores and burn mainly fat. The key is to not overdo it so that muscle becomes the fuel used. Fuelled cardio should be high intensity so that although you burn the fuel rather than fat in that session, at least the high intensity means your metabolism is boosted for hours afterwards turning your body into a fat burning furnace. So BBers on cuts usually either do AM Fasted Low Intensity or PM Fuelled High Intensity. Usually it's the former I think because it can be monitored and controlled a little better. Or even both infact.
 

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Ok ive been thinking for a few days, Im getting this all wrong, im trying to loose weight but im bulking up, and thats not working for me, shouldng I be doing cardio and trying to tone up instead of bulk up?
 

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Monster said:
Is Muscle Milk worth it? Or should I save the money and go with the generic brands?
No Muscle Milk a huge ripoff compared to On Whey. It's loaded with sugar too.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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HandyAndy is correct, there's nothing wrong with 12g of fat per shake. In fact, that's on the low side.

The only thing you really need to remember and be conscious of while consuming dietary fats is balance. Balance saturated(animal), monounsaturated(olive oil, etc) and polyunsaturated(fish oil, flax oil, etc).

Aside from that, there is no problem with fat. If you claim that 'fat is bad for you', support it with evidence or else I might delete your post(politely) as disinformation.
 

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is it true protein shake makes your **** not able to erect?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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xilley said:
is it true protein shake makes your **** not able to erect?
Is this a joke? You're not being serious, are you?
 

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thats why i am asking.
some people were tellin my buddy that it does. but i didn't think so.
so i asked U guys.
 
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