"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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"Professional Ladies" and wanting men to pay for everything

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Went on some other dates with these ladies. The only thing they have to bring to the table is their looks. Two of them, right off the bat during drinks, said they are looking for a man to take care of them. Vacations, home, children, have the option not to work, etc. One was a doctor, the other was a principal at a school. The doc was 34, the principal was 37. One a Jewish lady, the other a Catholic one. Is this a CT/NY thing nowadays? Both, yes, both asked what my living situation was and salary. I just replied, by myself and I get by quite fine. They had no issues telling me they make over six figures. I said, good to know. I always try to steer the convos to happy and fun things, some how it always segments to $$$ and what they want to do in their life. I was tempted to say staying at home, getting fat by eating bon bons is not something to do in life.

Maybe I'm missing something.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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They're trash, that's all. Nothing more to it... It's just too bad because they look pretty and therefor you feel attracted to them. But they're just pieces of shyt wrapped in very nice-looking paper...
 
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Sounds like despite their success, they are biologically wired to have babies and be taken care of. Getting close to their wall if not at it.
Sounds pretty normal to me. A little late to consolidate now.
Times almost up for them.
 

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So basically they had their fun riding the carousel and playing the successful woman then after they crashed the wall want to pretend its still 2009 and play family?

Not their fault, probably they saw their friends managing to do that and find some sucker...
 
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So basically they had their fun riding the carousel and playing the successful woman then after they crashed the wall want to pretend its still 2009 and play family?

Not their fault, probably they saw their friends managing to do that and find some sucker...
Exactly. They aren’t trash, they followed the feminine imperative to play until the wall and then consolidate. So yeah. That’s exactly what happened.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Both were pretty attractive, but I have a problem mentally paying for everything. I have no problem paying for drinks or an activity, but for any lady thinking it's their right to have their own money and not contribute anything just boggles my mind. The last one who did this I regulated her mostly to my home as I didn't want to pay for everything every single time. I felt like I was being taken advantage of. That one suggested that we take a trip, I said okay. She wanted to stay at the Hilton Conrad in Miami and fly Jet Blue. I slowly exited that relationship. It just wasn't worth the cost of admission.

These are the reasons why I feel I'll only have short term relationships with ladies. I cannot make myself just become a freakin wallet. I work very hard from my money. I have no problems take a lady out and treating, but I just do not understand how any attractive ladies feel it's right for them to pay jack sh!t. I've tried teachers, self-employed ladies, workers, lawyers, doctors, a Judge, a few cops (this was scary), etc. I just feel they are all looking for a free ride. They give you a few samples and attempt to lay down their law. I've given up reasoning with them, so I just shut off and walk. It' getting tiresome.
 

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Exactly. They aren’t trash, they followed the feminine imperative to play until the wall and then consolidate. So yeah. That’s exactly what happened.
They ARE trash, because of the way they presented their "demands" right off the bat during the date. Their behavior signals that they arrogantly assume that the guy is there to serve them and it implies that they expect to not have tot do anything in return. "I want this, that, this, this....oh and I also want that! Now give it to me, I am entitled to it!"

It's the equivalent of me going on a date and 5 minutes after we sit down, telling her: "I want a woman who cooks, cleans, washes my clothes for me and gives me bl0wjobs all day long" Of course that's every guy's dream haha, but you can't just say that right off the bat on a first date! Yet, these woman basically do just that! It shows very bad character on their part, entitlement issues, no respect for the guy in front of her, arrogance, a lack of decency, just terrible behavior...

They are trash with a capital T!!
 
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You're full of shyt. They are trash.
 

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These are the worst kind of women. They will never be happy, they will make your life miserable, they are manipulative and they will attempt to beat you into submission/compliance every chance they get. They will get pregnant with the quickness and attempt to live a life of leisure on your dime. The only thing more painful than the marriage will be the divorce...
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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These are the worst kind of women. They will never be happy, they will make your life miserable, they are manipulative and they will attempt to beat you into submission/compliance every chance they get. They will get pregnant with the quickness and attempt to live a life of leisure on your dime. The only thing more painful than the marriage will be the divorce...
Are you saying these women are different than other women? LMAO
 

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Are you saying these women are different than other women? LMAO
Good question...lol

At least most women try to hide this side, these broads don't even have the good sense to hide their bull****. These are the chicks that everyone at the wedding is thinking, "this guy is a dumbass for marrying her!"
 

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These are the worst kind of women. They will never be happy, they will make your life miserable, they are manipulative and they will attempt to beat you into submission/compliance every chance they get. They will get pregnant with the quickness and attempt to live a life of leisure on your dime. The only thing more painful than the marriage will be the divorce...
Highly dependent on the type of man she's with.
 

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Highly dependent on the type of man she's with.
When a woman starts off by telling you how much she makes, that she expects to be taken care of, inquiring about your financial situation, and making it clear they expect a man to show them the highlife... They have already told you the type of man they perceive you to be.

Hint: alpha fuks, beta bucks...
 

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Consider their audience. Would they have talked “trash” in front of a man they were interested in? Unlikely, they would have been cunning.

They asked OP what he did for living. When he retorted he “gets by quite fine,” they dismissed him and the girl “locker talk” ensued. Or perhaps presumptions were made prior to that question.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Consider their audience. Would they have talked “trash” in front of a man they were interested in? Unlikely, they would have been cunning.

They asked OP what he did for living. When he retorted he “gets by quite fine,” they dismissed him and the girl “locker talk” ensued. Or perhaps presumptions were made prior to that question.
You and @Spaz are spot on. Toad was dismissed and she was probing for the alternate agenda.
 

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Consider their audience. Would they have talked “trash” in front of a man they were interested in? Unlikely, they would have been cunning.

They asked OP what he did for living. When he retorted he “gets by quite fine,” they dismissed him and the girl “locker talk” ensued. Or perhaps presumptions were made prior to that question.
What's wrong with my answer? I'm supposed to say what? Do tell.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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